Obviously suicide is the result of extremely disordered thinking, but if one was to be rational about it, it would make sense to push off the date to a later time and begin living in the extreme in the meantime. I mean you can always kill yourself later if it doesn’t work out I guess. 🤷🏻♂️
Merry Christmas btw 🎄 lol 😂
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it isnt disordered, and i just found a really nice ig normalizing having suicidal thoughts the other day and it made me smile
Gallows humour is a thing.
I spent too long in my younger years with a suicidal disposition.
I still don’t understand it - but I basically wanted off the planet I went out of my way to avoid participating in things I objected to, it made things difficult but I found some solace in it.
Later I found the sentiment that if it were inevitable that I could delay the act and try at least to accomplish anything of value before wrapping things up.
Don’t give up.
Don’t do it , we love you.
An older man that I deeply respect recognizing my position phoned me at a very dark time. I didn’t take the call, but I did hear his message, and the conviction in his voice.
Since then my life has changed course. I’ve invested in myself. Things have gotten slowly better
Bitcoin is helping. I feel less pessimistic about the corruption. Nostr is helping. I feel less disconnected seeing others being genuine.
You got this.
Just keep breathing .
Hope you have a good holiday - or at least not too bad.
How is suicidal ideation not a disordered thought pattern?
gap to vast i fear, hodl
i dont even subscribe to thoughts being patterns
Sometimes they are sometimes they aren’t in my opinion
That's a bit of a dodge.
no. i dont mean to be rude but i dont even experience thoughts as sticky. i never have. https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs9sjcslnk7hcpkuxt4znt3qs5c7fzy7ll2rgwk6d862xhym6fnsqs6kmaq5
deferring and exiting is all
what it means to pass or be uninterested
“We have two lives, and the second begins when we realize we only have one.” - Confucius
That rationale is why I'm still here. Just putting off the inevitable makes time to re-light the spark of hope and will.
Oh and Merry Christmas 😉
Meaninglessness just makes you sad and angry and usually ends in bitterness or hedonism. Most suicides happen when people just want to make the fear and pain stop.
yea was gonna say, i dont believe the op has been there or knows much cos, not saying impossible, just, have never known meaninglessness to be a contributing factor
Lost a sister this way. You are spot on. The aftermath is sad. The pain doesn't go away, it just transfers to others.
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I think your both right. I think suicide is a rejection of suffering. By definition, it's a choice. But if you have a good enough cause to suffer for, you can accept it with grace, or even gratitude.
Suicidal tendencied are NOT disordered thinking, they can be a result of a highly poisoning environment. If you grow up in an abusive/dysfunctional family your inner self gets hurt or even scattered and the emotional pain in you can be immense and feels unbearable. From personal experience i know: you can overcome! I decided against suicide because life offers so many beautiful connections and experiences, and you deserve every good thing that comes your way! Feel hugged and know: universe loves you! 🧡💜
Pain. It is worth it.
I remember that day everyday when the light found my way into my heart. Grateful for making my life of service. All problems have solutions .
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Extreme sport enters the chat…
I get the point you’re trying to make about living fully, but framing suicide as a rational “backup plan” is exactly how disordered thinking sneaks in.
Life isn’t something to test-drive before an exit, it’s something that changes once you actually engage with it.
If you’re going to postpone the end, maybe that’s your mind already telling you it’s worth staying.
Yes. And add to HODL's insight: I invite anyone reading this to go to YouTube and search for "Why Young People Want To Die." I listened to it on the mail route yesterday. You will leave the interview wiser than when you started. And who doesn't want that?
I heard a Buddhist say the other day, "Don't kill yourself. Because you just have to come back and do it again."
Life is a vast amount of death and rebirths. We just need to make sure that when it's time to be reborn again that we don't take it literally.
Thank you for sharing. 🙏
Merry Christmas. I grieve for two suicides (one know and one unknown) this December. Wish I had insight on the topic. 🫂
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I just have shit to live for. Life is suffering.
Honestly, running is one of the best ways to beat back depression.
At a certain point, you either give up or go all in.
living in the extreme is what leads people to become suicidal in the first place, at least in my case
Yeah black and white thinking seems to be a hallmark for many
I mapped it out a decade ago and called it, “Adam’s 5 Step Guide to Suicide.” The concept being if you want to commit suicide, there are 5 levels of extreme living to do first. If at the end of doing all 5, you still want to do it, then you might as well.
I would say that many people that recover from addiction by working the 12 steps of AA or other 12 step programs radically decide to start living and rescue their lives from meaninglessness. Finding a spiritual solution to a meaninglessness life is radical in my opinion.
