Even the Core simps admit filters can’t censor txs. Lost all respect for Adam Back.
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yup. filters are about users having influence to prioritize propagation of non-spammy transactions, not eliminating them
the whole thing is absurd because you transpose the context to social media and they are basically saying everyone should be instantly seeing fraudulent posts instead of maybe examining them and deciding not to show them.
they will still get on the database, it's true, but actual transactions important to the majority of users will get a better chance of being stored sooner as a result.
resistance to allowing bitcoin to become a smart contract platform will continue until every path that closes the gate to spam is eliminated and finally the consensus rests on the idea of deprecating segwit and OP_RETURN. eventually it will reach a point where spam-propagating nodes are banned from most nodes p2p peers lists.
why am i so confident this will happen?
because bitcoin mining is a legitimate business now and it is in their interests, despite the short term loss of transaction fees, prevents them from becoming liable for publishing legally harmful material.
OP_RETURN is sufficient for layer 2s that want to do rollups and other similar things. they don't need to pollute the blocks with more data than their asset token references. the reality is that there is only one blockchain with immutable reliability, and ultimately these shitcoin L2s are just as trustworthy as companies leveraged up to the gills with fiat loans. the history is clear, over and over again, that casino chips as a business model is not a place that people should be trying to save or hedge against inflation. they are the CAUSE of it.
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btw i found your post because i'm building a simple nostr client component for my job and i wanted to elaborate the explanation for why the #coretard crowd are wrong. i've been thinking a lot about it and i really don't see how corporations engaged in bitcoin mining would want to get tangled up in arbitrary CP jpegs being uploaded and minting blocks with this trash in it.
this dramatically reduces the incentive of the majority of large miners to support the core position, and it hints at the idea that the backers of the Core Corruption is ethereum types who want to harm the reputation of bitcoin, and/or turn bitcoin into ethereum. neither thing are going to happen, because anyone who wants to participate in the on-chain shitcoin casino can just use ethereum. maliciously manipulating bitcoin to be degraded in reputation is a weak way to promote a shit product, by trying to basically defraud users.
Glad we’re on the same page about this. Yesterday I went on a rant about it. Most of my followers that are not on the pro-filter side probably thought I was crazy.
i have only really seen one proposal floated out there that would possibly make bitcoin more "ethereum like" and that's simplicity from blockstream. but even that is a huge stretch.