I really wish Nostr was more than ⚡🚀🟣 lol

it’s so cringe.. normal content is nonexistent, but the protocol itself is very cool

atproto is a good mix

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Protocol is very cool. But content is incredibly repetitive, you're right.

And get ready, people will point you to "normal content", but this will mostly just be bitcoin people posting about non-bitcoin stuff, so bitcoin people post about food, or bitcoin people post about sports.... what you won't find much of is non-bitcoin people posting stuff.

The reason there are so many bit liners is because bitcoiners evangelized it to other bitcoiners.

I dunno. I'm fine with this arrangement, but you can go just as easily evangelize it to the mid curves.

It's not financially sustainable, that's my biggest issue. Nostr zoomed out is bleeding too much money each month. It has to grow and earn, and to grow and earn it has to attract all sorts of people with all sorts of interests.

Where's the balance sheet that shows this.

Open sats putting in over $500k per month as of 1.5 years ago, surely that's a fair amount higher now? And then HRF, and then VCs like Ten31 and Hivemind, etc. And Jack's latest $10m for andotherstuff to last a year or two. Could be well over $1m per month right now, mostly going to developer salaries. Maybe $2+ million, who knows? Money coming back in the form of actual income (subscriptions, etc) is a negligible fraction of that.

If the developers stop getting this funding then they'll find other work and the protocol will atrophy, become much smaller with fewer projects maintained by die-hards in their spare time. Happens pretty much every time mass initial funding dries up without healthy recurring revenue streams to take the place. So it's a real gamble right now.

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All those grantees with zero long term plan whatsoever....

Like children that received their first pocket money.

On to the next uncle they can point their cute dev eyes at.

"It's for the common good, uncle!"

Low time preference, riiiiight? :padme:

Fuck welfare, riiiiight? :padme:

Than bring on non bitcoiners bro

Tried. It's like bringing non-bikers to a biker bar. Just doesn't work. No matter how good you tell them the beer is they take one look around and go 'cleary not for me', then see ya.

I think this highlights what social media has truly become for a lot of people; entertainment.

If it was about connecting with friends, the "Following" feeds would be all we need, but the "FYP" dominates.

There's no difference between turning on the TV and opening TikTok/Instagram for a lot of people. They want stimulus and entertainment.

I don't think so. It's just a question of people not being interested in bitcoin, but when then check out Nostr bitcoin is absolutely unavoidable. If you don't find bitcoin, bitcoin will find you. There's no escape.

Would you stay around if you found a new social network protocol but everything on it was people discussing Warhammer 40,000 and there was no way you could escape it Warhammer 40,000 no matter how you tried?

Yeah I get what you're saying but I think it still ties back to what people expect in a social network nowadays, which is near-immediate satisfaction upon arrival.

Agreed it's impossible to avoid btc convos regardless though, which makes switching to nostr hard and retention even harder

Yup, feels like if other communities are to take root it'll have to be in a space where they are fully insulated from the hyperbitcoin community here, as in a technical barrier. Maybe even a soft fork.

All the bitcoin talk on Nostr is a turn off. I try to keep my following feed to what I want to see, and so far it's tolerable.

I onboarded my mom, grandma, boyfriend, friends that paint, knitt, photograph, juggle, slackline. I also gave all of them some sats so they can zap so now they are bitcoiners or what 😂

How active are they now is the question.

More active than on Bitcoin network 😂 and made more posts about their trade than about Bitcoin - active enough to make my point :)

List thenpubs, I'll happily follow!

Check #artlist first, I didn’t onboard them but that’s non Bitcoin content I aggregate

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Especially do follow nostr:nprofile1qqs9v33jyutlpeddeyvhpf2crm2m58vjuv50feycg46xauceka0re8qpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgewaehxw309ahx7um5wghxvmmjwskkyarr9e3kcatzsrfvnc you just made me notice she is more active than I was aware 🤩

My mom nostr:nprofile1qqspupn2hte3vnwg3evdg84m7ezj68v2fcwg6g5ugrzs3ez28gateugpzdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ukzcnvv5hx7un8qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqk6m6n6

Nice, i'm following your mom, that's refreshing.

I hope she’ll start posting more travel pics :D

Do your know nostr:npub1kzkzcfh2hkcwp2ds6y8az3vv5u79wkce6e0p8u88fpxta6zq8zeskqyatg by the way?

To make your point I cannot find a few more npubs quickly cause that’s how inactive they are. This reminds me to do better. And for you: do better :D if you don’t try you don’t succeed. Gotta go to work now:D

Leveraged Bitcoin as branding and marketing from the start. It's actually a bad UX (*ducks for cover*) but I am only really here for the Bitcoin stuff and other P2P stuff.

I don't mind the bitcoin stuff, but i'm here mostly for the protocol stuff. And also Cashu, but with an eye on USDT via taproot (*also ducks for cover*).

So you don't dislike the content, you dislike the people posting it?

Wow you sound fucked up lol

I like the content and the people, well mostly, but I also recognize the bitcoin centricity is hurting growth and nostr really needs to grow.

Im not sure what the solution is. But whatever it is it does not involve more bitcoin.

It involves the dumbasses who haven't bought bitcoin yet swallowing their pride and getting on nostr so they can shitpost and earn some sats

Nostr needs them more than they need nostr, that's the dynamic here. Nostr as an wider ecosystem is bleeding I imagine well over $1m per month, it needs lot of people to bring their own money, money that nostr devs can channel to their own pockets. So the attitude has to be warm and accommodating.

totally agree, just a bunch of NGU bros

Easy there! some of us are family NGU bros

content will come as soon as more people see the value, patience my friend .

Sounds like you aren’t following enough people… I get a great mix of memes, gardening, food, music videos, etc., I just wish there were more paintball players on here.

Only 97 follows. The solution is follow less Bitcoin Bros, follow more normal people.

Exactly

Where can we find the Bitcoin haters on Nostr? I'd follow them for balance.

I think you're looking for the monero folks.

Do monero people generally dislike bitcoin? I'll do that for balance. Who's the leader of the Nostr monero clan?

I honestly don't know, I ignore most of that. I'm mostly here for fun, making jokes and silly memes. There's lots of that here.

And we love it so much 💜🫂

No. Most of us are (early) Bitcoiners with an actual need for privscy.

We hold and use both.

To the back, third from the right you’ll find all 6 of them there.

Am normal? Post food, yarn, and other random things...I also did a little exploring and found people I was interested in following and dicovered that you can mute words you don't want to see. I have a great time on the nostr and most days get a giggle out of something the nostrfriends are up to. #youcanjustmutewords

some relays actually have moderation, like wss://theforest.nostr1.com you can find a lot more people there, Stella likes to have lots of good people added to the whitelist.

Paintball?

Been a decade since I played, but when I was a teenager we opened a paintball field (in a converted barn loft, and bought an inflatable field etc) - probably one of the first 25 paintball fields in Ontario at the time. It was so expensive back then (not that it cheap now).

What's your paintball backstory?

Got into paintball the mid 90s and played tournament ball for about a dozen teams. Part owner of a couple fields and stores back in the early 2000s… got burned playing serious stuff a couple years into xball and now just play for fun when I can now. Expensive, 😂 not like it was back when you and I had fields probably. I try to tell kids about spending $90 for a case of brown box RP Scherer paint back in the 90s. Now my $300 gun shoots better than my $2000 gun from 2002. Do you still play?

Nice. That's a deep Bitcoin history.

Yeah paint was ridiculous, times when in Canada we were paying $120+ for good paint - wild days. Ton of fun though. I haven't really played since the mid 2000's (couple times after that for bachelor parties etc).

I've got a nephew a couple years away from likely taking an interest in it - maybe that'll be an excuse to get back into it.

Yeah I took a little time off when my teenage son was little, but then got back into it, just playing walk on at the nearest field and played some small tournaments there too.

Dude you’re only following 97 people! Expand your horizons, diversify in weirdness.. follow people you disagree with. Follow people from other countries. Nostr isnt going to spoon feed you- you’ve gotta make it work for you!

right... kind of a no-shit sherlock moment here... as hodl recently put it, sounds like a case of insufferable incuriousity.

Someone send him to global

I will agree that content discovery is a challenge compared to other social media platforms.

It takes more effort to build a decent feed but once you have it it’s worth it

It’s just Bitcoin content, AI slop and stuff like that

I’ve been on here since 2023, even interested in the protocol as to setting up my own (personal) relay at https://relay.j4ck.xyz!

Just wish it wasn’t so tied to crypto since the bubble is so loud. I don’t even disagree with the prob up Al too much.. 😅

It’s only 5 years old lil bro.

There is no big marketing machine like twitter or bluesky.

It’s for the freaks and geeks in your school that nobody wants to hang with, and that’s ok. 🤙🏽

This. Bluesky is just rebuilding a worse version of 2016 cancel culture Twitter. Nostr is building for the future, and not just for social media. It's in beta, so it's not perfect, but shows great promise.

Blusky went totally offline for a full day and those clowns 🤡 still have the unmitigated audacity to call it "decentralized" lol

He had the unmitigated audacity to jump up from behind my igloo and started into whippin' on my favorite .... baby seal!

With a lead filled snowshoe.

Hahaha was this recently?

Have you tried jacking off?

Walmart kiddie pool depth in this statement

Agreed - but very different audiences / population sizes though.

Atproto has 38m+ people; it will have more diverse content probabilistically

Nostr is much more niche and more people are here from an ideological perspective, so the content converges towards the ideology

Hopefully we reach a point where apps are built on these protocols without people knowing/caring; they're just apps that work in the way they want them to and diversity takes care of itself

But yes, I'd love to find more "normal" people on Nostr who enjoy topics outside of btc

Hey jack! Violinist and composer here posting daily music videos on Nostr for the last 3 weeks! Still new but loving the protocol and vibe so plan to stick around. Check it out if you want some different content in your feed!! 💜🙏💜

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This is just of the top of my head.

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I think you just called me normal 👀 my plan is working 🤣

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Curate your TL

I want more Bitcoin content not less

Honestly my Nostr feed is almost exclusively gardening, farming and cooking. You are the algorithm and thewhole thing gets better as you choose who and what to follow.

I am just waiting for someone to promote a bitcoin church on here zapping Jezuz

What do you think about skin care? I think I will be big fan of retinol. Srsly thinking that skin care should be a thing here...

if nostr clients/apps are as good as mastodons, more people would be here imo

And that is why I’m also not as active - I don’t understand what I can do to change it. But I am still here - but in a different capacity because I mostly see only Bitcoin stuff and I like that but not Only that. I use Mastodon more, which has the ActivityPub protocol.

Create the content you want to see on nostr, and as you do this you will find more and more accounts also posting the content you want to see!!