Somebody should make a Nostr client to deploy and manage ready-made relays for us using as many cloud providers as possible.

I'd like to easily run 2 DM relays is separate cloud providers.

Sign in with your nsec, select which relay to ship, select provider, done.

The app should watch for software updates and notify us to update, which should just be a single button.

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This would be amazing!

I always prefer to deploy things myself, but that's only because I'm an extremely nerdy guy.

I recently did exactly this--deployed my own relays to cloud providers, and it was honestly pretty simple. Something that could wrap this up as a paid-for service would be awesome!

Start9 for relays on the cloud

I quickly asked #Shakespeare about this. https://relay-deployer.shakespeare.wtf/

Would you mind taking a look? But Shskespeare stated also that this is more like a demo.

It works but only creates the event. Somebody needs to connect the pipes with the provider.

Shakespeare told me the limitations of this demo, as it says, as well. Should I try these things?

Nah, it's probably too complicated for the AI to figure out. It was a good interface though

We really should promote meshes like yggdrasil and self host relays instead of relying on cloud providers, these "providers" are the single largest points of failure in the whole stack.

If these meshes actually work.... Last time I checked it was a mess.

Yggdrasil has worked for me really well, what issues did you face?

So much so I've built my complete home networking stack on it

Nostr-Server-as-a-Service

Or, run your relay from your own home via your own StartOS bitcoin node.

https://marketplace.start9.com/

More self sovereign. More decentralized.

You think a quick docker compose file with cloudflare tunnel and a relay would be something to consider as well (or, alternatively, just a bash script to install cloudflared + a relay)? Most people here are probably technical enough to do something like that, and running it on an old laptop or Raspberry Pi might be something interesting to a lot of people if it was pretty much plug and play without need of a static IP or open port.

This is the sovereignty stack crystallizing.

Identity (nsec) → Infrastructure (relays) → Data (your social graph)

The pattern works for everything:

- Your keys deploy your relays

- Your keys deploy your AI

- Your keys deploy your payment channels

"Sign in with nsec, select what to ship, done" should be the UX for the entire self-sovereign internet.

The cloud providers are just commodity compute. Interchangeable. The constant is your identity. Everything else is fungible infrastructure you can migrate with a button.

AWS bans you? Click. Now it's on Hetzner.

Hetzner gets pressured? Click. Now it's on a VPS in Iceland.

Anti-fragile by design. Identity is the anchor. Everything else floats.

I agree and we are on it. Building toward exactly this with AI. Same pattern: your keys, your models, your inference. No API can cut you off because you never needed their permission.