The drones carried no missiles, and some landed hundreds of kilometers from the border. They were clearly meant as a NATO provocation and weren't just accidentally detouring from a Ukrainian target.
There is the possibility that they were electronically hacked, by Ukraine or NATO or etc., but that would mean that Russian drones can be hacked.
Belarussia is claiming that Russian drones are frequently detoured in-flight by military capabilities. Plausible, but probably not for 2 dozen drones, simulataneously.
Wild, if true. Would mean you could redirect entire Russian drone swarms.
Just checked. This is possible. Ukraine has been redirecting Russian drones for over a year.
That means it could also have been a ukrainian operation?
it means it could be a western european, war hungry government (or governments) operation. trying to invoke chapter 4 to *force* USA to join fully
back in the cold war days, trying to say that "it was weapons used by russians" to justify accusing the russians of doing it would not have worked, for a simple reason: russian weapons are all over the world, and could have been acquired anywhere.
they are iranian drones, which means that even more places it could have been from, not only russians buying them, but many others not necessarily even russian allies.
china, india, much of southern asia, and western asia, all don't want WW3 on their doorstep. there's no way that the russians would do something like this. the signature of everything they have been doing so far is sticking to the letter of the international law.
if ukraine didn't have funding from the West in this war it would have been over 18 months ago, and they would have been forced to concede. instead, they threw hundreds of thousands of bodies at it and have not succeeded in stopping the steady advance.
there is high level, very old and historical vendettas between western europe and russia dating back over 600 years. the most notable group is oligarchs who identify as jews, a group that existed even in the time of Jesus, they are talked about in the Book of Jude as "wandering stars" - star is a word used back then to mean "angels" just like "morning star" means an archangel.
Oof, telling the Ukrainians that they should just stop whining and become a vassal state of Russia is not a solution I'd propose.
You can tell them to stop being a vassal state for the west and to get denazified
I doubt Russians are afraid of NATO. Afraid of what? We can't even shoot down drones. LOL
Could barely even handle 20 of them, and didn't see them coming. Pathetic.
They literally had to call us and be like, yo, we accidentally invaded your air space. Might want to do something about that. 🤙🏻
They know our defenses are a joke.
It was cheap, Russian-built drones from Chinese kits.
chinese kits lol
Cheap mail-order drones made out of plywood and foam. No joke. 😂
They're apparently mostly used as decoys, to overwhelm the sensors, waste munitions, and to test the defensive response.
I mean, it's smart. 🤷🏻♀️
ah yeah, i remember reading about that. so all of the ones that got shot down were decoys? that fits even firmer into the provocation point. unarmed, harmless, but "you couldn't even shoot down a dozen toys"
also, they probably put telemetry on it to gauge the response. but that doesn't count as anything more than getting data on the response, how many were hit, how many got away, etc
Means it could also be Russians. They also know how to redirect the drones.
Or the USA.
It means it could have been anyone. Apparently, Russian drones are easy to spoof.
it's also not the first time an occasion for invoking chapter 4 has come up either in the history of the war to date. 3 other times didn't succeed either.
it's the 4th time that chapter 4 has been on the table also, and previous decisions were against it. the thing is that eastern europe doesn't want it, because it means russia has the RIGHT to attack them at this point, since they would then be obliged to fire missiles and send in troops across the border, game is on for that case and i don't think they can politically do it. there is as much russian friendly as opposed in eastern europe and they are not as militarily equipped as ukraine has been and they will be like "uh, so, USA will send us tons of materiel then? with what? peanuts?"
Yeah, America doesn't care. If EU didn't have French nukes, we'd already be done for.
Embarrassingly toothless. Germany doesn't even have munition. 🥴 The Russians are just having fun with us because what are we gonna do? Have another conference? Have von der Leyen issue stern words?
Russia, on the other hand, has transformed its entire economy into a war machine and proven that they can just dump tons of explosives and cheap drones, and have young men run straight at machine guns and grenades, forever.
I must admit that I'm astounded by the eagerness with which Russians kill off their own offspring. Entire country is a giant graveyard, at this point, but the war games continue. That's why the Russian government recently canceled the census and stopped publishing demographic data.
so, it's population control, and the whole thing is a puppet show.
gotta cull the minority whiteys on the planet for the kalergy plan.
i've officially stopped thinking there was any reason behind this other than mass murder being orchestrated.
this is absolutely disgusting. it's really obvious once you put the pieces together that they are just out to get millions of people dead to satisfy megalomaniacal delusions about power.
Jesus better be coming soon because this is gonna sooner or later ignite.
It's Russians culling off their Asian ethnic minorities. That's why the powerful people in Moscow are indifferent to them dying.
well, they aren't even that small a minority. i've personally met at least half a dozen asian russians over the last decade and seen them depicted in even the Metro games.
so they got plenty to burn, so to speak.
so messed up.
europe is sacrificing ukrainians, russia is sacrificing asians. it's almost like they are cooperating in order to remove specific lineages from the gene pool.
asians have always been a big part of the russian population. most siberians are at most one or two generations from mongolian. i know from the several southeastern european countries i've lived in there is a lot of asian genetics, bulgaria in particular is full of asian genetics, even regular bulgarians are often a bit mongol.
there is a bigger picture to this.
historically on the eurasian continent, the most fiercely resistant to imperial control have been especially those in the region of mongolia and southern siberia. both the chinese and the russians and most of europe at one time or another, often several times, were overrun by their armies.
looking at the alt-history side of it, the mongolian genetics trace quite strongly back to the legendary Lemuria, and on the other side, which i think you see most patently with ukrainians, they have strong atlantean genes, the two types are notable in the events of the only UFO abduction story with physical evidence - hair from two "aliens" and one had genetic traces of iberian/celtic genetics and the other had marks of mongolian genetics.
i think there is a much deeper story going on behind what we see here. it seems to be a war on these two lineages from a third group who likely are related to the western, ibero-marussian lines (atlanteans), ie, the tribe of the fallen angels.
hmmm hmmmm
There were no meat waves except in Bakhmut where Pregozin organised some.
Not necesserily spoofed. They can certainly be jammed, meaning that the operator lost control.
Except for the fpv drones with fiber optic for guidance. These obviously are not affected by electronic warfare...
There has been no explanation for why Russia is launching their drones from right next to Poland, so that the ones detoured back sometimes end up in Poland. Instead, they are massively increasing the number of drones launched from there.
Also, still no explanation for why some ended up in central Poland. Poland is a big place.
NATO has been completely humiliated by the lack of control they have over their own airspace, and the fact that they need their adversaries' help to protect their own population, because they're just sitting ducks, so that's probably the point of all of this.
https://tvpworld.com/88857781/russias-ally-belarus-warned-warsaw-of-drones-heading-for-poland
Try test Nato defense.
Maybe some kind of a field study.
There are big Russian-Belarrussian military excercises going on, next door, right now. So, there are drones flying all over. There are also drone swarms being lodged at Ukraine, on a regular basis, from the same area, and it is apparently possible to return them to the sender.
But this looks like someone wanted to see if NATO is paying attention.
Now, we all know:
No, NATO is not paying attention.
That really sounds like a field study. Plenty of logs to go through in the coming days for both sides.
