Usually payments from RoboSats are a few hops at most if you open a channel with WoS, Alby, ACINQ or some other similar large routing node. You can check out the channels that RoboSats has opened: https://amboss.space/node/0282eb467bc073833a039940392592bf10cf338a830ba4e392c1667d7697654c7e
With regards to opening channels towards the RoboSats experimental coordinator node, first check out the RoboSats documentation. Generally not recommended to open a channel towards RoboSats since its not a "routing" node: https://learn.robosats.com/contribute/liquidity/
Ah I see. I agree holding invoices could be done to attack the network, but RoboSats' use of hodl invoices is quite a ways away from being considered "malicious". This concern has actually been discussed at length in the RoboSats public chat/support groups. For a better response (I'm just a social media volunteer and not a dev and don't want to speak incorrectly), it might be best to direct this type of concern to the RoboSats Matrix public dev group chat (https://matrix.to/#/#robosats:matrix.org)
I'm sorry to redirect you 😅 please do spark the conversation on Matrix!
Oops, you mentioned the bond hold invoice. But the same still applies, as the seller's escrow is also a hold invoice too.
You cannot "undo" the identity verification process!
If you want complete privacy in regards to how much you own, don't buy on an exchange that records this information. Mixing coins doesn't change the institution's record-keeping of how much BTC you've withdrawn from them.
Anonymity is only possible if you use a truly private payment method. While CashApp is a possible (and popular) payment method on RoboSats, it is not very private and does not guarantee safe trading. My understanding is that CashApp allows you to use an anonymous username handle but there is risk of charge back by your peer. So a more private and irreversible payment method is recommended like gift cards, for example.
RoboSats let's you be as anonymous as you want! Every new trade on RoboSats is a new identity (never re-use the same identity more than once). So the anonymity really comes from the fact that RoboSats requires 0 personal information to make trades and the fiat payment method is done in E2E encrypted chat with only your peer.
So that's why it's recommended to also use a payment method that is private because your peer is the only individual who could "find you out" because of your payment method. To an outside observer (like your fiat rail institution), it would appear you sent a random individual money unrelated to anything bitcoin. Just be sure to not include something like "bitcoin" or "robosats" in the payment comment field haha 😁
nostr:npub1p2psats79rypr8lpnl9t5qdekfp700x660qsgw284xvq4s09lqrqqk3m82 is amazing. If you haven't tried it yet, you should.
#[1] You heard it here first, robo-folks:
RoboSats is amazing 🤖⚡🤖⚡
Nice use of the stats charts!! That's a great clarification, the expected premium will vary depending on your currency and the supply/demand imbalance of that currency (USD is more liquid than, say, RUB)
Also, keep in mind, the fiat payment method can command a higher premium if it is more private whereas less private payment methods (which are the majority unfortunately) tend to have lower premiums because more sellers are accepting those payment methods.
Help grow P2P liquidity in your local currency! Tell a friend! 🤖⚡
Note that sellers get more bang for their sats when selling on P2P exchanges w/ premiums versus verification exchanges (VEXs)
Check out private (ethical) options when selling/buying BTC: https://kycnot.me
https://nostrcheck.me/media/public/nostrcheck.me_1290606205970983591687099144.webp
Sorry to hear that 😢 Well, at least the same mistake won't be made twice 😅
Indeed, the BTC<->FIAT market rate will typically come with a premium and a positive premium is above that rate, whereas a negative premium is below that rate (AKA a "discount")
In future, you could try explaining to your peer in the P2P chat stage that you took this order before realizing the premium was negative, and hopefully your peer would understand so that you both could collaboratively cancel the order. Collab cancel means your bond isn't forfeited.
I just keep them for the card and shaking sats. Next paycheck, I am buying Bitcoin through nostr:npub1p2psats79rypr8lpnl9t5qdekfp700x660qsgw284xvq4s09lqrqqk3m82
Awesome!! If you aren't already acquainted with RoboSats (and if you like tutorials), check out this guide bitcoiner.guide/robosats
The goal of the Telegram chat was to make an easily accessible location to ask questions and seek help in a public forum. So from a community forum perspective, its easier and more accessible (wider audience available and existing user base) as well as an ability to sufficiently moderate community group chats.
The reality is also that casual (nontechnical) users who need the most help are disinclined to download a dedicated app to ask for help even if its a more private option. These casual users would more likely already have Telegram.
But regardless of privacy aspects, the fact the group chat owner account is currently irrecoverable is a different issue with services like Telegram.
❗❗ Heads up ❗❗
RoboSats comms are migrating from Telegram to SimpleX/Nostr (general support) and the existing Matrix dev chat.
Nostr: note1tfwvglg8xz8420pfgav0dc9mqekv02nkpck2axefklrema7lk6wszmwxdy
Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#robosats:matrix.org
Consider Telegram groups deprecated.
Long story short: the group owner was indiscriminately banned by Telegram and thus managing the group effectively is no longer possible.
The silver lining: we can start fresh with a far more private messaging app.
https://stacker.news/items/191570
P.S. ...
Would highly recommend anyone actively using Telegram consider dropping it entirely in favor of a more private and secure messaging app (one where you can't be indiscriminately banned!!)
If you have friends using RoboSats, please make them aware of this update! 🤖⚡
#[1] Thanks for sharing!! So cool to see the platform continue to grow 🤖⚡🤖⚡
Yes! Similarly and equally devious: whoever controls the fiat on/off ramps controls the world!
What good is a censorship resistant and immutable money if normies can't safely and privately exchange with it? P2P is the way 👍
RoboSats requires ZERO personal info from you to use the platform!
Simply create a fresh avatar identity and provide the fidelity bond (typically 3% of the order amount)!
If you're unsure about anything, reach out to the public Telegram support group: https://t.me/robosats
Happy to hear you enjoy this privacy tool!! 🤖💞
Indeed, the squiggle arrow is the swap in/out feature. Using RoboSats, you can make or take an order to swap in or out of Lightning. Swap destinations can include on chain, on chain using Stowaway, Liquid, RBTC, etc.
The aforementioned guide references the swap feature!
Check out our documentation for more info on P2P swaps! https://learn.robosats.com/docs/swaps/
Check out the updated https://learn.robosats.com/contribute/ documentation about how you can help contribute to RoboSats!
Even if you're not a shadowy super coder, you can help contribute thru creating guides, translations, fan art, etc.. And especially by telling others to buy/sell P2P!! 🤖⚡
RoboSats on nostr has been a little quiet ... Sorry about that!! ICYMI there's an amazing guide created by qna@bitcoiner.chat that simply and eloquently explains how to use RoboSats!!
Aptly named: "RoboSats 101" 🤖⚡
Check it out: https://bitcoiner.guide/robosats
And if you happen to like the service, consider sharing your experience about it with others! It helps build P2P liquidity 💪
RoboSats Testnet is running an early build of v0.5.0! 🏗
Changes made are "deep stuff" in the backend/frontend as a stepping stone for the federation upgrade! But should look no different than v0.4.3.
Please help by testing all crazy/weird cases to ensure nothing is broken! 🔎