FWIW, the stats for married black men versus their white counterparts is rather depressing, but definitely explains some of the bad financial and wealth stats floating around about black families...

OTOH, I think we need more white guys to marry black women. For, you know, reparations.

My condolences and prayers. :-(

And this is why I want a condo with an in-unit washer/dryer.

I remember that!

IIRC, he stopped doing that set when he noticed that some white people liked it *too much*.

It’s the middle class black people dillema.

There's a reason why lefty types wanted to re-imagine policing and all those other buzz words. They knew that black cops would be just as awful as white cops.

In contrast, here so many want citizenship ASAP to avoid the risk of deportation. Everybody is afraid of that risk given how hard it is to get a green card, and the fact that you have family members relying on you back home.

Either the German media overhypes things, or immigrant groups somehow manage to not be as insane toward each other in the US. Haitians aren't going to light up the Jamaicans with pitchforks around here.

OTOH, maybe it's because if one chooses to commit felony assault, you win a free trip back home. It's not worth bashing somebody if it means you lose everything.

There's a reason why hospitals in the Bronx wouldn't put Dominican patients in the same rooms as Puerto Rican patients...

Coincidentally, there's a reason why Caribbeans live in black neighbourhoods and not Latino ones. :-/

With that said, I suspect it's because they're used to meeting bourgeois types, um, crude about these issues compared to other people within our own ethnic group. They're basically meeting white people that "season their chicken". I suspect one could argue that our immigration policy should select for that, and I suspect that's why East Asian immigrants are well liked in North America....

*EU is getting a bunch of Senegalese, lately.*

Stable enough to avoid being the top story on the news, but insanely high unemployment. So you send the men off to Europe, and shame those who didn't make it. Seriously, I've heard the stories on BBC about how those who don't make it are seen as *useless* and mistreated by their families, especially if assets were sold to pay for their trip...

I remember when NYC was the capital of the Haitian diaspora.

Now it's Miami. IIRC, the Haitians in Florida are mix of people from Miami and the Northeast. They wanted somewhere cheaper with less extreme weather, and oddly, for some Haitians, Atlanta feels like "home" if they grew up in the mountains.

Bonus is being away from the other Haitians that you don't like.

Haiti is a case where because there's crap for opportunities even before the state's implosion, you have lots of poor people struggling that basically view leaving as the only solution because they have zero hope of securing the few middle class jobs in the country. And the few people with middle class jobs view leaving as their backup option in case they lose their jobs.

In the 1980s, the latter would just overstay their visa. Now they just wait perpetually on line for some first world country. The former sell everything and become boat people, or they hope that somebody from a pays blancs sends money back home so they can pay bills and eat. With the capital imploding, even the latter will forgo waiting to try sneaking into the US.

I was going to write up a whole thing, and then I remembered how Northeastern and Canadian Haitians look down at their Miami counterparts as kinda trashy. OTOH, New York and Boston Haitians look at their Canadian counterparts with shame in the sense that they live in a place where they speak French, and yet somehow haven't become filthy rich.

FWIW, the Canadians partially solve for this problem by requiring their immigrants to meet a skill profile, or for those being sponsored by family to be financially supported by their families with a financial penalty for state support. The stories of family members going on welfare and the government billing their sponsors makes sponsoring the questionable cousin less enticing.

IIRC, I think they're from other parts of West Africa like Senegal.

As I've jokingly noted, they *seem* Haitian, but it feels off. :-)

*Quinceañeras*

Nah, we celebrate Labour Day and Sweet 16s. Not us. :-)

With that said, it seems that the neighbourhood is going down, and your dad is bailing before things get worse. I can't blame him or anybody else for doing the same thing.

FWIW, the loud party reference is why we *never* considered having a family BBQ. Stuff that's tolerable in a black neighbourhood would never fly in our mostly white neighbourhood which is what partially scares some of the non-white buyers away. Day time party is acceptable, but definitely, no loud music.

FWIW, based on my grandmother's nine grandchildren, only two have married white people and those two were probably the most white adjacent out of all of us as they grew up in the Upper West Side in Manhattan. One cousin married a FBA, another married a fellow Caribbean. And so far, four great grandchildren are products of FBA relationships, one is FBA/Hispanic, and two are mixed race.

From what I've seen, we're melting into the FBAs.

If he's open enough to marry a foreigner, he's open enough to the idea of more foreigners coming in.

I noted my cousin's harsh tendency toward fellow Haitians trying to claim refugee status during the Trump era because they were afraid of being deported from the US back to Haiti. His view was that it wasn't Canada's problem to solve if the US didn't want them.

FWIW, I felt far more sympathetic given the current state that Haiti is in right now...

When you've paid stupid amounts of money to make it here, and you see somebody showing up and screwing up your deal, you tend to take it somewhat personally, especially if they're from a different ethnic or religious group.

TIL that Susan Rice is also a fellow Caribbean.

FWIW, those three aren't that different from the types of middle class people that I'd see in my old neighbourhood waiting for the bus or at church. Kamala is a ten percent of the Jamaican moms or aunts where I grew up.

*White people don't notice that effect because we all look alike to them.*

Meanwhile, I think we can figure out who's the foreigner within 30 seconds. :-P

A friend noted that in NYC, I'm "Haitian", but in Seattle where he grew up, I'm just another black person. It's partially why I've never really warmed up the idea of leaving New York, and I'd prefer Canada where the bulk of the black population is composed of black immigrants, especially from my part of the world.

"She's incorporated white supremacy toward browner Muslims."