Zapped just because you said I can't.

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Are we clear on an elementary thing that no volunteer should go and start digging nobody's garden nor street nor moving and fixing cars just anyway he desires? Help means you go to a victim, ask what he needs, if he needs his car fixed, you do that, if he says he is happy with his mess, you go home. See how no special skills nor management of firstresponders and EU are required?

Moreover, if Valencians are so at odds with their neighbours that they won't come to help, if they do not approve their skills and gear of helping, strangers from further away should not help either. If your closest ones don't want to help, maybe you do not deserve to be helped. DESERVING is the key word in everything always. Learn from Franco and stop making those mistakes of pampering the undeserving ones.

go be a nuisance to the first responders then, if you're so adamant on getting involved in something you have little to no experience in.

I mean, if you want to be a street sweeper and cleaner, why now? Why not two weeks ago?

Or is it a hero complex? Or is it just drama?

Most of what you say is just drama anyways "that you will take care of everything because you are in a special "go for a walk gear"?"

as if PPE and equipment is "go for a walk gear"

I think I already know what you will answer to me next:

EUs help is essential because they have better "go for a walk" gear, and Spanish gov and people would perish without their support.

Volunteers should be managed therefore they should stay home because their gear was not reviewed by the corrupt scientists and firstresponders.

I am just drama who probably also does not have an approved "go for a walk" gear.

I mean, and you probably did not even get my joke or cry of despair about the "for a walk gear" 😂. What was that, can't remember something I wrote recently in another post about teaching to read, government, something 😂. Is this what you thought: "what's so funny, Spaniards indeed wear the best "go for a walk" gear because it best supports the joints and keeps the right body temperature (also good price/quality ratio) and saves X amount of eur for the healthcare system"?

I am sorry, I am not usually so offensive, but time to time I need a scandal to draw attention of others. I am done trolling for today. Or this week, or this year.

Telling people their government is useless is like teaching a dog to read. Dogs have only good intentions, but...

I am so far away that it actually does not concern me. So honestly, personally me in this particular case, am just not letting a good tragedy to go to waste, just like Spanish and European governments on this same exact tragedy. The difference is, that in their case it does concern them.

go be a nuisance to the first responders then, if you're so adamant on getting involved in something you have little to no experience in.

I mean, if you want to be a street sweeper and cleaner, why now? Why not two weeks ago?

Or is it a hero complex? Or is it just drama?

Most of what you say is just drama anyways "that you will take care of everything because you are in a special "go for a walk gear"?"

as if PPE and equipment is "go for a walk gear"

Natural disasters force the european union to extend its powers.

This explains a lot.

"Volunteers don't need to be managed."

you are a certified dumbass.

Natural disasters force the european union to extend its powers.

This explains a lot.

"Volunteers don't need to be managed."

you are a certified dumbass.

Not strong enough to reveal my identity even to the war room yet. But yes, it is very tempting. A couple of times I caught my finger above the apply button.

yeah I don't think there's actually a problem with volunteers, it's managing the volunteers whilst you have search and rescue operations underway.

You can't stop people from helping, or sending supplies etc.

Also, if the more untrained civilians are doing things in dangerous places where there is still active risk, then it become a problem. People need to understand this as well. Cleaning some mud isn't the same as rushing to a place to go see what you can do only to get in the way of trained professionals trying to save lives. It happens a lot.

yeah I don't think there's actually a problem with volunteers, it's managing the volunteers whilst you have search and rescue operations underway.

You can't stop people from helping, or sending supplies etc.

Also, if the more untrained civilians are doing things in dangerous places where there is still active risk, then it become a problem. People need to understand this as well. Cleaning some mud isn't the same as rushing to a place to go see what you can do only to get in the way of trained professionals trying to save lives. It happens a lot.

yeah I don't think there's actually a problem with volunteers, it's managing the volunteers whilst you have search and rescue operations underway.

You can't stop people from helping, or sending supplies etc.

Also, if the more untrained civilians are doing things in dangerous places where there is still active risk, then it become a problem. People need to understand this as well. Cleaning some mud isn't the same as rushing to a place to go see what you can do only to get in the way of trained professionals trying to save lives. It happens a lot.