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I don’t believe sats will represent total wealth, merely that portion that is money, the most tradable good in society. We still need other goods and services to survive and thrive. Therefore, there is always a price at which earlier adopters will trade their sats for goods and services from later adopters. Virtuous cycle fostering wider adoption. I think the last 15 years support this.

How can sats be very valuable and at the same time never traded?

Replying to Avatar Jeff Booth

I’m writing this because I keep getting asked to comment on Saylor/Saif video even though my position hasn’t changed.

The natural state of the free market is deflation which means all prices fall forever in Bitcoin (assuming it stays decentralized and secure)

Free market economies are more productive meaning faster deflation (or real wealth gains by falling prices)

That system is incompatible with an inflationary monetary system meaning one of those systems must fail.

Either:

1) A system based on truth, hope, and abundance for all 8 billion people on the planet driven by a free market economy and all prices fall relative to bitcoin forever. This means Bitcoin is used as a medium of exchange and freedom tech spreads to the world through lightning, Liquid, Fedimint, Cashu, etc.

OR

2) A control system. An extractive rent seeking system that is NOT the free market (similar to the one we have had for 5000 years that resets every 100 or so years through war) continues to centralize by having you believe price of bitcoin is going up in fiat which makes the surveillance state stronger. This eventually centralizes Bitcoin - custodians, media, regulation (funded from the same manipulation of money) where it is attacked from layer 2. (Similar to gold)

While these ideas may “seem” compatible in the short term because you want Bitcoin to go up in fiat. What it really means is that you are giving your energy and strength to the system centralizing the world by converting Bitcoin to Fiat….to then measure prices.

Quite simply - If Bitcoin is only a store of value, it fails as a store of value.

Ps - It won’t fail. #1 is inevitable in time because too many (and more each day) have seen behind the curtain and are determined to build path #1.

Many of you here - the people that inspire me every day. You make a difference with every word, thought and action.

Almost did that in all caps per nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx because it’s so important.

Referring to # 1 above…..There is no second best.

I found their disagreement very revealing. It boils down to nostr:npub1gdu7w6l6w65qhrdeaf6eyywepwe7v7ezqtugsrxy7hl7ypjsvxksd76nak seeing the current status of Bitcoin as a “digital asset” as a transitory phase in the process of its monetization. This to me is the correct position and shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who has read the Bitcoin Standard.

My read on nostr:npub15dqlghlewk84wz3pkqqvzl2w2w36f97g89ljds8x6c094nlu02vqjllm5m before listening to this podcast was wrong. I thought he was avoiding saying the quiet part out loud in his public appearances. Now, I’m not so sure. He seems to think fiat and Bitcoin can coexist indefinitely, allowing for the fiat corporate finance games to continue for ever.

Replying to Avatar Rune Østgård

How much do you actually know about intellectual property (IP)?

Did you know, for instance, that nobody has ever proven that IP is a net positive for society?

Logics dictate that this artificially created privilege is a net negative for humankind.

In economics terms, IP blocks many of the positive externalities that comes out of ideas.

To say it in plain language, good ideas are more valuable for society the faster they spread and the cheaper they are to put into use, but IP slows down the speed of dissemination of ideas and forces people to pay before they can use them.

As an author, I think it's extremely sad that the mechanics of society mean that I depend on copyrights.

I clearly see how it corrupts peoples' minds and hearts, just like all other political priveleges do.

Below you get a glimpse of how detrimental IP is to people living in developing countries, and how it corrupts countries once they have been industrialized.

Up until the 20th century, the U.S. government had lax enforcement of IP, particularly concerning foreign creators.

The legal framework allowed for the widespread piracy of foreign works, as the 1790 Copyright Act explicitly excluded protections for non-US authors.

This led to rampant appropriation of foreign designs and publications, with little consequence for infringers, as the government prioritized domestic interests over foreign IP rights.

Officials believed that strong IP protections would mainly benefit foreign creators, raising costs for domestic consumers and hindering local innovation.

The prevailing view was that the U.S. economy needed to develop its own capabilities through imitation before it could afford to protect foreign IP rights.

This perspective was influenced by a "frontier culture" that prioritized individualism and innovation over strict adherence to IP laws.

Calls for better protection from figures like Charles Dickens largely went unheeded, reflecting a broader culture of IP violation during this period.

The US changed its position dramatically in the 20th century, when itself became the strongest economic nation in the world.

While many developing nations, including India, Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, resisted stringent IP standards, and argued IP favored developed countries at the expense developing countries, Uncle Sam, the former pirate protector, became the world's most aggressive enforcer of IP, pressuring developing countries with the use of trade sanctions.

I want an end to all artificial priveleges.

This first and foremost includes monetary monopolies and intellectual property rights.

Monetary monopolies centralize power and wealth.

Intellectual property legislation blocks the decentralizing effect of ideas.

Both corrupt society at high speed.

Abolishing these political instruments dramatically changes society for the better.

In the meantime, I'll just have to live with the fact that copyright is the way an author today earns his money.

But I'm not going to let it corrupt me.

Agreed. IP is a propaganda term. Until it’s introduction, patents and copyright were understood to be monopoly privileges bestowed on the few.

Are you really designing incentives or relying on incentives intrinsic to the market and human nature?

Are you really designing incentives or relying on incentives that are intrinsic to human nature and the market?