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It's waves, all the way down to Planck. Always has been. Kill central banking

I wonder when the markets will react. Soonโ„ข

Years since they released all these things and people tell me they are great.

"Alexa, turn on lights"

"I don't recognise that device"

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To restate my position; it appears flat because we can't find the claimed curvature. It could be anything else other than curving, because various types of measurements falsify the claim of curvature.

Similarly, there is no evidence the earth is in motion. There is an equivalence in the models, in that one proposes we are moving while the other proposes that the bodies are moving around us. Both are equally valid from a kinematic and dynamic perspective in physics.

I've come to the conclusion that the physics which supports heliocentrism is wrong. It's reached a dead end and it has problems, like dark matter, which geonentrism doesn't need to account for because we have an aether. That's why I believe one of the main keys to breaking this apart entirely is zero point energy, which is only possible with an infinite energy source, or the aether.

True, but it does suggest we can't trust what they tell us.

The data we can acquire independent of them is far more reliable and valuable, and that's why I go with that.

Exactly, so what would exempt NASA from being another corrupted institution just like the rest of them?

Just the hopes and dreams they sell us, because that's their job in order to maintain funding.

The Marxist way. Manipulate the language and then push it under the guise of tolerance.

All the countries have unilaterally agreed to the Antarctica treaty despite claims they are mortal enemies. If that's feasible, it's feasible they have other arrangements to. These things are proof of anything.

The fact is curvature is repeatedly debunked with long distance observations and radio waves. Indisputably so, that's why the topic always shifts to "but what about .... explain that."

Once you get into the physics then it really starts to go downhill. Did you know there were pages that emerged which were removed from the end of Newton's Principia? Want to guess what was in them? Why would they hide those?

NASA is fake and gay. I know they faked the moon landings, which means their credibility is totally shot. Only a handful of people have ever claimed to leave LEO. I think it's a cool story. As real as a Hollywood production.

Look at a map, there are lakes in Iraq.

You're attacking his credibility in your entire response. You doubt he's a pilot because of what his position, rather than addressing the points being made. You would think this guy would be proven a fraud 3 or 4 years since this video was made, no? Think about who has more to gain from this lie? I found the full interview, here:

https://youtu.be/fGjcTypR1GI

From the same perspective, who has more to gain, lying antivaxxers or the corporations making them? Risk/benefit doesn't add up there, nor here. There is little to nothing to gain from lying about this, nor is there anything to gain from being a geocentrist; at least not from a monetary perspective.

Many credible pilots make the same claims, I can't find all of the videos online. Here's another compilation I found while searching:

https://x.com/RobotPolisher/status/1682219372503347201

Ironically, to your point about the military, that's what happened in WW2. Germans used a system targeting system the Brits claimed couldn't work on a curved earth, and the Germans bombed factories in England using that targeting system. LOL

Line of sight radar debunks the curvature rate, seeing as these tests have been conducted over hundreds or thousands of miles. I've heard all the cope presented as a rebuttal.

https://youtu.be/n2r6hFMBaKE

Agreed. The former is what is typically presented as proof.

The idea that there is an edge as a presumption though. No one makes that claim. The photos we have from 'space' or high altitudes show a level surface.

See how the misrepresent things? Why do this?

The claim:

Reality:

One by one, they flee.

I don't believe most will ever reconcile that in their lifetimes. I grew up in Africa, so I learned early on that governments are not our friends. My parents and family are all grew up in communism, so they had first hand experience with it.

Westerns live comfortable lives and are lulled into a false sense of security by their governments, and explaining this without prior experience is very difficult.