my brother sent his DNA to one of those stupid ancestry things, sigh

I wish people understood they share DNA with whole family so it's not exactly theirs to give out

you just said that altcoins don't need to exist because we now have cashu. it feels like I am trying to argue with a toddler who insists that the oven won't burn him. you failed the intelligence test.

I want you to walk me through the scenario in your mind. do you really think that none of the people who are doing illicit electronic commerce have any need for sovereignty? do you really think that they are all going to blindly trust some rando with a cashu server to hold onto all their money and not steal any of it? keep in mind, this is the same set of users who invented multisignature escrow and baked it into their ecommerce platforms that they built from scratch. do you really think they are going to stop caring about all of that and use cashu?

Agreed. I have been rugged 4 times already. It's fun, but custodial on steroids.

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every tiny act of rebelion counts

Here’s my #cashu payment request if anyone wants to test it out. 😎

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No problem - we just have different perspectives. Mine is not being able to buy food because I wouldn't let the government inject me with poision... while they built internment camps, preventing me from traveling home, and incarcerated doctors for telling the truth.

I think the argument that Monero doesn't have any applicable real world use is just as applicable to Bitcoin, and to pretend it doesn't makes you intentionally daft or utterly delusional.

if Bitcoin is a successful threat to the bankers that run the world,

self-sovereign use will be highly discouraged.

and it wont be "just some database remembers a story"

it will be the entire chain is mapped and a score assigned to each utxo. it will be extremely difficult to use poorly regarded utxos.

or you can just use "BtcBucks™ Backed by Bitcoin!"

and have a nice user experience with something accepted everywhere.

and 99% of people will do that and so much for privacy.

(btw it isn't "remembers a story about them for a while." its forever for all intents and purposes)

I am truly shocked by how much money traders lose both long and short off the smallest price moves.

Literally tens of millions lost every little swing, minute by minute, absolutely incredible

You could easily make the same argument for Bitcoin; not counting Bitrefill for various services, I have to use a Spritz card to make my (actual) money have any "inherent" real-world value.

Don't throw stones when you yourself are made of glass.

All my utxos have CJ history

and i havent sent any since Whirlpool went off line

except the change I have in LN

but over the long term i dont think thats correct.

without good privacy tools the number of non-KYCed UTXOS only decreases

So the anonset gets smaller and smaller and they get harder and harder to use because nobody will accept them.

theres probably a sweet spot before that point where they are valuable above market price

but on a long enough timeline they are likely worthless.

paying with spy money means they have to access the camera and look at the data

youre just saying

"everything is already surveilled so seeking privacy is pointless"

avoiding easily traced on-chain payments is obviously preferable

Seems unlikely to ever happen with monero or Bitcoin

or at least

with non-custodial, censorship resistant bitcoin