Yeah, people started to realise they are worthless.

And that is priceless.

Since Los Angeles is on fire, maybe the “Biden” administration should send another hundred billion dollars to the Ukraine & Israel.

(After all, when they did that in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene helped the people of NC in a way that was nothing short of miraculous.)

The fact that they’ve got 150 bureaucrats sitting around ready to go and be speech police on the internet tells me these institutions are beyond reform, they need to be burned to the ground.

I'm 90% sure it's the Mennonite that are more strict. I think its the Amish that allow for some tech and stuff. Not exactly sure what criteria for one to be the other.

One more thing, do you mean Amish or Mennonites? I'm not certain where the line is between them but certainly the old order are less tolerant / more suspicious of tech.

We've put a lot of words into action already 🫡

Appreciate the convo btw. It's good to hear opposing opinions to help build the case.

Then less talk, more action, go talk to them.

That's the idea here no? Increase the % of ppl worldwide using bitcoin? To get a normie to accept bitcoin they have to unlearn a lot of what they know about economics lifestyles (time preference) etc.

The whole point is that Amish are actually the "low hanging fruit". They already subscribe to most of the lifestyle choices bitcoin teaches and the only perceived hangup is "tech". But that simply comes from a misunderstanding of why Amish avoid tech in the first place

At this point it is only useful for what everyone else is using it for.

Cypherpunk has already pointed out this problem.

Try getting general acceptance up first.

The answer to that is obvious, everyone outside is trading with it.

Bitcoin is currently and has been useless for trade where I am, nobody accepts it for anything remotely necessary...

It is a problem to them though. Again I pose to you, if it wasn't a problem, why do they transact with USD over precious metals?

Transportation still matters locally. If one guy has gold in his house and wants to go down the street (locally) to trade with their buddy, they have to transport it.

Having a digital money does not mean you have to shop at Amazon.

Just because a feature exists does not mean you have to use it.

Bitcoin is digital but they can have Amish wallets that only access internet so far as to access a node. Without access to Amazon or any other online retailer they won't be using the bitcoin to shop online. They can transact locally and utilize the global bitcoin network without having to access the wider internet.

That's what they currently do with their cell phones now. The ones who have smart phones have some limited and restricted Amish only apps. They have access to certain things deemed safe but everything else is closed off. Application of bitcoin would be no different

So next you plan to have them doing online shopping & international trade like the rest of us? 😂

Dude ok silver copper bronze tin whatever. The type of metal doesn't matter. All physical coins are an inferior method of exchange vs bitcoin.

OK sure, but that doesn't change the fact that bitcoin is a better method of exchange than any physical metal coin. Gold or otherwise.

I can weigh metal coins but I have no way to verify on the spot it's not a forgery.

I have to carry around coins and someone has to have a scale.

These old methods worked in a historical context and will continue to work in a post apocalyptic type of context. But in today's current society, bitcoin is better.

Yes that's the entire point of this thread. We have been working on orange pilling the Amish community because we think it's highly beneficial to them and the bitcoin community.

The key is education and understanding that bitcoin will not introduce sin to their communities.

Right. So gold is not a very good medium of exchange.

Your other two options are usd and bitcoin. Which is better?