> "I've seen so many people say they won't use Nostr because we don't support delete. This is really frustrating, because Nostr DOES support delete, it's right there in the NIP's!"
>
> — [rabble](nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240)
A few days back, rabble posted a note and a blog post discussing the misconceptions about Nostr's inability to delete notes and his perception on how the issue should be approached.
You can read the blog post [here](nostr:naddr1qq2ksje3g9trxujpxymyxjjlg5ckjmmrtguyxqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejqz8rhwden5te0dehhxarj95crztnev94kj6r0dehx2tnrdaksygq0ytqxatqsqf5yalxx3atg2s8gxsk3vzw4pz7dgvfvqw8xr98ckcpsgqqqw4rstvd04e).
His thoughts prompted me to share my own thoughts on deleting stuff on the Internet in general and Nostr in particular. My note got some attention (lots by my meager standards 😆), reposts and comments so I thought it would be good to expand a bit more in this week's newsletter. *Make sure to check out my original note below and the responses. There were very good points made to support also the need to delete notes.*
---
## The good old Internet
Before MySpace, Twitter, Facebook and the rest of the social media behemoths came around, the Internet was made of a bunch of decentralized services like IRC servers. You would connect to a server, chat with people, exchange files and know that once you post something, it's out there and completely out of your control.
The Internet is just amplifying the reach of your speech. You can't delete what is posted just like you can't unspeak what you have spoken.
> Posting something on the Internet is like peeing in the swimming pool. Once it's out, you can't take it back.
>
> — Old piece of wisdom passed over to me in the early years of the Internet

I took this advice to heart. And I drill it into my kids every day: **don't share with anyone anything that you wouldn't want splashed on all the high school screens**.
## My approach to deleting Tweets, notes, and other stuff
I don't understand the fear of not being able to delete notes.
Yes, now there is a permanent record of what you say and everyone can see it. It is the price, and the beauty, of having the Internet megaphone.
So use it wisely. Think twice before you post.
The inability to delete has the potential to make the Internet a better place. To get rid of all the bullshit that goes around elsewhere in centralized apps.
Sure it would had been nice to be able to edit tweets to correct misspellings but I believe that an Internet where you can't delete stuff is a better Internet.
I remember one time when I felt for a prank from an Ethereum Twitter user. He, and his followers, roasted me for days, reposting my tweet and having a blast at my expense. I was tempted to delete my tweet but I felt that that would had been an act of cowardice. Better to own my mistake and use all the scorn directed at me to learn the lesson.
## But what if I change my mind?
*But what if I change my mind and I don't agree any more with something I posted 5 years ago?*
Congratulations! You have grown! You have learned new things and now you have new perspectives on life and stuff.
> I pity those who agree with everything they have written on the Internet in the last 20 years.
Change is natural. Change is good. Your past posts are proof of your growth. Why would you want to delete them?
If sharing the fact that you have changed your mind scares you, if you'd rather delete an old post that admit that you were wrong, maybe you should take a deeper look within yourself.
And let me be clear, people who go back through your posts to find something damning that you said 5 or 10 years ago are at the very least stupid and most likely evil, driven by an ill will towards you. They are the problem, not your thoughts from 10 years ago.
## Deleting in Nostr
Like rabble says, you can mark a note as deleted. Some clients and relays may honor the request, some may not. You never know. Rabble's take is that by marking something for deletion you're signaling that you have grown, that you have changed your mind and that that note does not accurately capture your thoughts on the subject any longer.
I respectfully disagree. I think that posting a new note with your new thoughts is a better approach. You can even quote the old note to make sure that everyone knows what you're talking about. Because, for all purposes, you don't know if the note will ever be deleted anyway.
For me, the existence of the old note in conjunction with the new note signifies growth and that is what matters the most.
**Full disclosure**: when I decided to stop tweeting and focus on Nostr, I left the Twitter account inactive with the content still up. But after Twitter started requesting biometrics I realized that it was time to close the account and that had the effect of deleting everything: good (the few) and bad (the many) tweets alike.
---
# Notable notes
nostr:note178tfxt6r98e4huv5d8vv7u8x0nkhclt0whcep3z8xutu9uuj4yuqf7syk6
nostr:note10558a40e25t42n7a94cwg68t4y4w0g44z240lqvqfkg6ddlfsr8sw5wudn
nostr:note1emj5lzys3vuenjvmdjtqmzlp90znq08w2f57p2t7xakm2t0rssfql2qhr9
---
# Recommendations
## rabble
rabble has been working on censorship resistant social media for years. He was working on Planetary and scuttlebutt before switching to building on Nostr.
You can follow him [here](nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240)
---
## What did you think of today's newsletter?
Your feedback helps me create the best newsletter possible for you.
Please leave a comment and checkout comments from other subscribers and readers. I love hearing from the Bitcoin For Families community ❤️ 🙏🏻
---
See you again next week!
— Alejandro
This newsletter is for educational purposes. It does not represent financial advice. Do your own research before buying Bitcoin.
Please don't like being forced to thing deeply, critically, and with a long-term mindset on the internet...THEY WANT THE GARBAGE PILE. They want to be able to create and roll around in the filth and then delete stuff so they can grandstand later lying that they were never even there.
> "I've seen so many people say they won't use Nostr because we don't support delete. This is really frustrating, because Nostr DOES support delete, it's right there in the NIP's!"
>
> — [rabble](nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240)
A few days back, rabble posted a note and a blog post discussing the misconceptions about Nostr's inability to delete notes and his perception on how the issue should be approached.
You can read the blog post [here](nostr:naddr1qq2ksje3g9trxujpxymyxjjlg5ckjmmrtguyxqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejqz8rhwden5te0dehhxarj95crztnev94kj6r0dehx2tnrdaksygq0ytqxatqsqf5yalxx3atg2s8gxsk3vzw4pz7dgvfvqw8xr98ckcpsgqqqw4rstvd04e).
His thoughts prompted me to share my own thoughts on deleting stuff on the Internet in general and Nostr in particular. My note got some attention (lots by my meager standards 😆), reposts and comments so I thought it would be good to expand a bit more in this week's newsletter. *Make sure to check out my original note below and the responses. There were very good points made to support also the need to delete notes.*
---
## The good old Internet
Before MySpace, Twitter, Facebook and the rest of the social media behemoths came around, the Internet was made of a bunch of decentralized services like IRC servers. You would connect to a server, chat with people, exchange files and know that once you post something, it's out there and completely out of your control.
The Internet is just amplifying the reach of your speech. You can't delete what is posted just like you can't unspeak what you have spoken.
> Posting something on the Internet is like peeing in the swimming pool. Once it's out, you can't take it back.
>
> — Old piece of wisdom passed over to me in the early years of the Internet

I took this advice to heart. And I drill it into my kids every day: **don't share with anyone anything that you wouldn't want splashed on all the high school screens**.
## My approach to deleting Tweets, notes, and other stuff
I don't understand the fear of not being able to delete notes.
Yes, now there is a permanent record of what you say and everyone can see it. It is the price, and the beauty, of having the Internet megaphone.
So use it wisely. Think twice before you post.
The inability to delete has the potential to make the Internet a better place. To get rid of all the bullshit that goes around elsewhere in centralized apps.
Sure it would had been nice to be able to edit tweets to correct misspellings but I believe that an Internet where you can't delete stuff is a better Internet.
I remember one time when I felt for a prank from an Ethereum Twitter user. He, and his followers, roasted me for days, reposting my tweet and having a blast at my expense. I was tempted to delete my tweet but I felt that that would had been an act of cowardice. Better to own my mistake and use all the scorn directed at me to learn the lesson.
## But what if I change my mind?
*But what if I change my mind and I don't agree any more with something I posted 5 years ago?*
Congratulations! You have grown! You have learned new things and now you have new perspectives on life and stuff.
> I pity those who agree with everything they have written on the Internet in the last 20 years.
Change is natural. Change is good. Your past posts are proof of your growth. Why would you want to delete them?
If sharing the fact that you have changed your mind scares you, if you'd rather delete an old post that admit that you were wrong, maybe you should take a deeper look within yourself.
And let me be clear, people who go back through your posts to find something damning that you said 5 or 10 years ago are at the very least stupid and most likely evil, driven by an ill will towards you. They are the problem, not your thoughts from 10 years ago.
## Deleting in Nostr
Like rabble says, you can mark a note as deleted. Some clients and relays may honor the request, some may not. You never know. Rabble's take is that by marking something for deletion you're signaling that you have grown, that you have changed your mind and that that note does not accurately capture your thoughts on the subject any longer.
I respectfully disagree. I think that posting a new note with your new thoughts is a better approach. You can even quote the old note to make sure that everyone knows what you're talking about. Because, for all purposes, you don't know if the note will ever be deleted anyway.
For me, the existence of the old note in conjunction with the new note signifies growth and that is what matters the most.
**Full disclosure**: when I decided to stop tweeting and focus on Nostr, I left the Twitter account inactive with the content still up. But after Twitter started requesting biometrics I realized that it was time to close the account and that had the effect of deleting everything: good (the few) and bad (the many) tweets alike.
---
# Notable notes
nostr:note178tfxt6r98e4huv5d8vv7u8x0nkhclt0whcep3z8xutu9uuj4yuqf7syk6
nostr:note10558a40e25t42n7a94cwg68t4y4w0g44z240lqvqfkg6ddlfsr8sw5wudn
nostr:note1emj5lzys3vuenjvmdjtqmzlp90znq08w2f57p2t7xakm2t0rssfql2qhr9
---
# Recommendations
## rabble
rabble has been working on censorship resistant social media for years. He was working on Planetary and scuttlebutt before switching to building on Nostr.
You can follow him [here](nostr:npub1wmr34t36fy03m8hvgl96zl3znndyzyaqhwmwdtshwmtkg03fetaqhjg240)
---
## What did you think of today's newsletter?
Your feedback helps me create the best newsletter possible for you.
Please leave a comment and checkout comments from other subscribers and readers. I love hearing from the Bitcoin For Families community ❤️ 🙏🏻
---
See you again next week!
— Alejandro
This newsletter is for educational purposes. It does not represent financial advice. Do your own research before buying Bitcoin.
Please don't like being forced to thing deeply, critically, and with a long-term mindset on the internet...THEY WANT THE GARBAGE PILE. They want to be able to create and roll around in the filth and then delete stuff so they can grandstand later lying that they were never even there.
Please do! Liberals need bitcoin AND capoeira just like everyone else haha!
Have you ever considered that there might be people with valuable things to say who lack either the skills or the desire to grow their follower count? Maybe they don’t have the time. Or maybe they kinda like the idea of flying under the radar.
Here’s my essay on how web of trust can free us from the tyranny of the legacy advertisements-addicted system which worships social media “influencers” at the expense of everyone else. How WoT can give us the tools to find the users and the content we want. Even when those users don’t have a high follower count.
https://prettygoodproject.substack.com/p/the-pretty-good-way-to-calculate
My daily struggle. Like I feel like I have a lot of share. I know I could def built something online, but I really detest the perverse incentives of audience capture and “attention-as-currency” influencing…
Hey Frens - take a read if you haven’t already and let me know what you think!
https://habla.news/moon/1707588577213
#Writestr
#Readstr
#GrowNostr
#Introdoctions
#Capoeira
We gon have to have a national conversation about this new Kanye album...
#Tunestr
I mean, let people do whatever the fuck that want. Non agreeesion princple + mind ya business
BACK TO ME is a track made for AMERICAN nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs
Gawd, I gotta legit consider flying to Thailand for the Halving 😂
nostr:note1rt4rkqww8j5hwlu4kg062cp92l0ydvmuqv60d0glqw42ust2wxvs8ew73h
I honestly didnt know about this site (every noise at once). That Spotify was just sitting on this and couldnt figure out how to better leverage it is a damn shame. That itll be shutdown/breakdown is even worse.
At this point I only use Spotify because my friends have some good playlists there. Spotify's music discover is TRASH, Tidal's is much better. I may replicate some playlists and fully make the switch over.
nostr:note1twyhgd0ufv7fq6590g856u7x750epzz4qd2c6j3r5jqcpdhjc3zq702fws
https://habla.news/moon/1707588577213
Piece in BTC Mag from a while back. #Bitcoin and #Capoeira.
Finally got around to publishing it on here on Nostr #Habla nostr:npub107jk7htfv243u0x5ynn43scq9wrxtaasmrwwa8lfu2ydwag6cx2quqncxg
Whats more, I've added a gallery of photos at the end of the writing!
#GrowNostr
#Writing
#Writestr
#Createstr
#Plebchain
Gotta say, feels like vaporware. Or like my Blockwatch, works but only when I connect it to a local wifi network through my phone...
Well, that's why Gus there is still in a suit 😂
My meming skills are still developing 😂 Help me out!
#Bitcoin
#SuperbOwl
#Plebchain
#GrowNostr

#Bitcoin
#SuperbOwl
#Plebchain
#GrowNostr

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