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nostr:npub108zt8c43ulvdwnax2txurhhr07wdprl0msf608udz9rvpd5l68ascvdkr5 what about large monthly donations? Are those good or does it mess up the math?

no large monthly is fine. the monthly part is what matters. predictable income, not 200$ today nothing for a week then 20$. I can't plan with that shit

yes you are welcome friend. good morning friend.

miss my gf so im gonna sleep extra hard tonight, hope you guys had a great day and can turn off and vibe like im about to. sweet dreams when you do ๐Ÿ’ค

over the entire day, about 3000$ was raised and while this is great for us, the majority were one time large ($20+) donations

this has been a great push in the right direction but if you want to donate 100$ donate 8$ per month for a year instead of sending it all at once. all a large contribution does is give us a short influx of cash and is actually the worst way you can help us because i cant accurately calculate our monthly expenditures to determine actual operating costs. we are below 2000$ but because i can't properly calculate it, i dont know how much

tldr: send small 5-10 per month donations dont send massive ones because it fucks me up a lot mental math and financially

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I have a lot of ideas from threads today and ideas of my own I'm going to evaluate. but I will offer value for dollar service, I agree that it shouldn't just be a handout

yeah no it wont be good here. as it stands stupid shit like people i follow breeds animosity among some people. blocks, for example breed another type of animosity. when we provide something in exchange it will be something stupid and funny. maybe custom themes or something

dont ever apologize for paying anything to keep poast afloat. you are not beholden to me and im not your keeper. i appreciate it but if you have something you need to be paying for please don't contribute. we dont need it more than you need basic needs and comfort maintenance. poast should always come last friend

this isnt just poast btw

if you are on another instance give your admin something man stop being a freeloader. we need to break this stigma of giving money to spaces you occupy. we wouldn't be here without user donations and we wont be in future. just like any other instance. if you are occupying someone elses server. send them a couple dollars. it's not bank breaking and it's certainly not out of line to ask for it. just do it. ask your admin how you can contribute and help the fediverse please or start your own instance, we provide tools for that fediverse.expresss btrf.ly

thank you friends

yeah I will look into that -- steady stream, no. you can check public addresses

the reality of this and really anything in life is that if it's free, you're the product. i dont like the idea of ads, even as funny as user generated ads are i feel kind of grimy forcing that shit on users. the problem is I want everyone to have everything I can offer on this platform at all times. the idea of paywalling or gating off features, functions or whatever is how you ostracize your user base. look at the migration from twitter when the 8$ blue check shit hit and they limited how much stuff people can view daily.

that makes me feel disgusting even thinking about it. the idea here is providing incentive or value outside of restricting or limiting what someone can or can't do on a platform. a subscription based service like the ability to "boost" a poast so everyone sees it (even tho you do anyway if you check the local timeline) for example. or like another user suggested, views on a particular poast. view counting seems really fucking gay but it seems like something people would enjoy. little stuff like that will go a long way. so it's all stuff i've resolved to explore beyond just asking for handouts. i should be providing something beyond the base experience if i expect the support or whatever

my man i wish you would keep it, you told me your story. can I send it back?

30k users paying a dollar a year or 3k users paying a dollar a month.

to be frank -- i would much rather have 3000 people paying a dollar a month because it affords me the ability to properly budget, predict trends and growth ebb and flow and makes operating the site and its costs much more stable. as it stands right now I have to move stuff around every couple months to try to save money and cut corners

on the other hand, 30k at one time would afford us the ability to pay for *everything* for an entire year which reduces our total operating cost by between 15-18% which is very far from insignificant when you are talking that kind of money.

im torn every which way i look, and we are in a unique position here because we are more or less pioneers in the sphere with a pleroma instance of this size, so i dont have a lot of people to turn to for technical help but i lean heavily on those i do -- including our security audits which are helping the fediverse as a whole.

i am talking to both shari (on matrix) and fse pete (on irc) about this and I think admins of larger/more active instances on this side should band together to resolve this not just financially but with tech and other stuff -- i have sent contributions to NCD and NHTB and I'd like to see others pay it forward. I'd like to see a Poast user who might have an alt on NCD to throw a couple dollars matty's way. or someone who doesn't have an NHTB account throw some shari's way because they know we rely on this. so i will try to cultivate this culture here as best i can. in this situation we dont win unless we all win

I considered deeply not asking for handouts but the reality of it is, it's handouts or its advertisements. once you introduce outside money you introduce control. introducing outside control influences your userbase, your ruleset and your culture. i wont ever accept outside funding from advertising or whatever, but i also cant stand idly by and let the site require intervention to the tune of nearly half for 2 3/4 years without trying to rectify it. it's also not an astronomical number by any stretch of the imagination. if everyone who is registered here donated 1$ we would have enough to pay for poast for a year and a half. if even 10% of them gave 1$ per month, we would have 1.5x what we require to operate which would give us the ability make regular donations to developers. i dont think asking for that is a lot. but some people cant and I get it. other people just consume and have no interest in contributing because they dont care, thats fine too. the point is, this is so easily rectified and by such a little commitment its surreal that i have to repeatedly do it

nostr:npub1jec0cqff85rd753aynptsk5cqjpj85z4uf5fl7ptusaatsryqz8q6tkxpm nostr:npub1u3mf5w22drsy5e2se4unaghjwc52fteqfvlz2p9d3cy7e2ut5kzqr4hfz3 nostr:npub1svejs6vywtvd85yzhjpx4k09wprg5g7aj58pfdfykls3stneq62s6szrym I dont consider us as copying the business model. I started Poast as somewhere to shitpost with friends. that's all it was ever intended to be. explosive growth due to branding, advertising and etc was never considered. we are just trying to get by, man