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This guy is such a demonstrable jackass.

Anyone who clicks that ad or gives him their money for his “insight” does not deserve to keep it.

This was literally presented as an outrageous idea (that they went ahead and did anyway) in the 2018 film, Sicario 2.

13mini is as close as we can get to a nice, small phone these days.

Same thing here. What do you mean “different kinds of truth”? To me, that’s a non sequitur. I’m not familiar with Piaget or genetic epistemology, but describing how “truths can be concordant with reality” is, to me, just a way of describing opinions that are functional/useful to a given set of conditions. What you call “reality” I call “your perception of it.” There’s really no other way to describe it. All we have are our perceptions.

It is only when we *stop* perceiving that we see what is underlying. THAT, and only that, is the Truth that is always-and-everywhere. Everything else is just mind stuff. God, dogma, religion, beliefs, opinions, “truths” (concordant or not), all of these are nothing more than concepts, mental objects, which people take as being 100% true. But it isn’t. Referring back to my initial response to you, consider the “truth” of Hanuman to a devout Hindu. It carries no more truth than Athena or Jesus. This isn’t about consensus. No belief is True.

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I agree with you on a lot of stuff, including how claims of truth are relative to a framework and the truths they describe may even be subjective, and that the appropriate epistemology may even be subjective.

I think that you are, however, confusing a consensus on the subjective claims of truth, or on the means of claiming truth, with objective truth, when you say

> So, if all religious understanding (whether about god or gods, Confucianism or Taoism) is only *relatively* true, then they might as well be false. We’re looking for something that True, always and everywhere.

Something that is true everywhere and always is still perfectly achievable in a subjective framework, if your framework applies soundly to the whole universe. The fact that there is not consensus on this is not reliably indicative of it being false anywhere, ever. This applies whether they outright deny your framework and understanding or they merely do not understand it or don't know of it at all. The framework can still be concordant with reality under any of these conditions.

For two ostensibly contradictory interpretations of reality to both be the truth, it is often a difference in frameworks between minds that makes it appear that way, when in reality there is no such contradiction, and so a consensus on truth can exist properly understood, while appearing to have very different and incompatible claims if you interpret them through a framework in which the claims lose their meaning. I think that is one of the things that people do when they confuse consensus with truth, or get stuck on the words or definitions of concepts and forget the relativeness of the meaning, which it looks like you are trying to not do, but are still doing.

I dunno. I don’t really see the difference, even though you’re trying really hard to show it to me. LOL.

I don’t agree that, “Something that is true everywhere and always is still perfectly achievable in a subjective framework, if your framework applies soundly to the whole universe.” It’s precisely the subjectivity that I’m pointing at which makes it relative. Anything relative is not True always-and-everywhere. It is only true in relation to certain conditions or a specific framework. It’s one sided, from one perspective.

I do understand what you are saying, and read it several times. It’s just that maybe we have differing views on what TRUTH means. Not to devolve our discussion too much, but Truth does not depend on consensus (we agree on this), nor does it depend on a framework (we disagree on this).

When you refer to the “relativeness of the meaning,” it sounds like you are scoring a point for me, actually.

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them they’ve been fooled.”

~Mark Twain

This extra comment is a nice follow up to your other one, because I was going to ask whether you acknowledged the relativism of your answer. And, it sounds like you are by recognizing that it’s “assessed individually.”

Lately, I’ve begun to see that epistemology, itself, is entirely relative, too. Or, at least, entirely subjective, which is basically the same thing, no? So, if all religious understanding (whether about god or gods, Confucianism or Taoism) is only *relatively* true, then they might as well be false. We’re looking for something that True, always and everywhere.

Since we were on the topic of evolution, I should point out that I wouldn’t say that “science” is True, here either. Far from it, in fact! Science is constantly being tested, updated, challenged, and questioned (as it should be). Science may tell us “how” but it cannot tell us “why.” Adherence to any religion that purports to have an answer to how and why by pointing to an imaginary entity possessed of omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence, should be only lightly held, if at all.

Again, I don’t want to poke at what you hold sacred. Your beliefs are yours, to whatever extent your conditioning creates them.

Impressive production and choreography.

No, they cannot breathe underwater. They must hold their breath during dives.

Seals are mammals, not fish.

It will never cease to amaze me how eager some people are to prove their own ignorance to the public.

Is Kalshi taking bets on this, yet?

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