The gun industry in that era was full of make it now wait for the lawsuit later and kel tec being the way smaller company most likely did not have the resources to sue ruger and stay afloat or did not care. It was so big and popular at the time even S&W just released a glock with no license and went ok it will take like 5 years for this suit to be settled.

Ruger and others made many clones. The late 90s to the 10's were full of p3at and p11 clones.

THE LEGEND SAYS THAT GEORGE KELGREN WENT INTO DEBT TO FINANCE MANUFACTURE OF SOMETHING THAT COULDN'T BE SOLD UNDER NFA RIGHT BEFORE NFA GOT PASSED

THE BURN CAUSED HIM TO SWEAR OFF OUTSOURCING ANY MANUFACTURE, SO ALL KELTEC GUNS ARE MADE BY THEM IN HOUSE, ON THEIR VERY LIMITED MANUFACTURING CAPACITIES

how do you pronounce that? exo-shitl? exo-spittel?

Most online gun retailers let you return guns within 30 days or just go nah this is off before even doing the transfer and refund you. I'll support a gunshop if the price is slightly higher than online but they almost always are if the gun is 500 online shipped its 950 in the store. I see even something like a hi point or a taurus being sold for 350 dollars at a store when you can get both online very often for 100 for the hi point and 150 for a g2c taurus.

🙄 I've been buying guns for almost 20 years and used to go to gun shops a couple times a week. I've bought a shitload of guns including some pretty rare stuff. I've never once had the *opportunity* to buy a Kel Tec anything. Not so much as a P3AT.

Maybe they finally unfucked themselves in the last few years but Kel Tec, for most of its existence, has been a design shop that can't produce anything in volume.

Yeah, that’s because it sells, man. It’s not vaporware because they don’t sit on the shelf long.

The Sub2k was one of the biggest sellers at my buddy’s shop for a while, took about 5 years of availability for the RDB/RFB to be able to even keep them on the shelf more than a day or two. Last time I talked to him he said the survival version is now the hard one to keep around. Been a long time since I talked to him, but it’s not like he was getting a trickle of them. They were up there w/ the 6920s, flying out the door the second he put them out.

Everyone else just looks at what the aftermarket is selling, then starts integrating it into their guns. Continues to rankle how people are so ungrateful for the ONLY company going off the beaten path at all. Everyone else gave up years ago

Nothing like asking really knowledgeable finance people very stupid and basic questions because I am very stupid.

ANOTHER M4 IMPROOVMENT OF THE FUTURE

LIGHTER PROFILE BARRELS NOW THAT GOV PROFILE IS OUT OF VOGUE, AND MONOBLOC DESIGNS WHERE THE GAS BLOCK IS JUST MILLED INTO THE BARREL

cnc doin what lathes could never do.

jew york times: "Well actually incel it was WOMEN that hunted the deer in the past, so your calls to RETVRN mean you'd just starve in the bush."

Reality: In hunter-gatherer societies men contributed anywhere between 60% - 80% of the calories eaten by the tribe.

There must be something with optimum muscle density where a guy below 6ft has significantly higher strength

the cost: weighing 15 lbs and still being a late 1940s rifle at heart so it needs plenty of possibly temp sensitive grease to work smoove