nostr:npub16edn737n8u3xz2sjywwz9xks2xgguvhg86fwuacv2ns92y7ln8csqk9xwc >Bitcoin has only existed for three US elections.
It's a nitpick, but I think you're off by either one or two, depending on when you clock it (if you're counting only presidential elections, which I think you are).
>I don’t care about earlier or non decentralized ways.
You should care about ways of solving these problems that existed before - the ways in which they either did/didn't get adopted give us an idea of how likely it is that blockchain technology *will* get used to verify elections.
I think it is poor practice to hold out hope when similar things have failed in the past for reasons not involving technology. Adoption of technology in politics is often glacial, and is usually hindered by parties who benefit from poor solutions.
I don't think this conversation will yield much more fruit at this time, regardless - I think that when the next set of elections is shown to be fraudulent, that you might remember this conversation and think back on it. This type of optimism only really gets hammered out by observation and experience - and that's OK, because it looks to me like there is at least some time before things get so bad that people absolutely must separate into whichever side they end up on.
Take it easy bro. Maybe we'll run across each other on TWKN again some day, IDK.
nostr:npub16edn737n8u3xz2sjywwz9xks2xgguvhg86fwuacv2ns92y7ln8csqk9xwc >We now have a verifiable and decentralized way to secure our elections
This has existed in Taiwan for years, and has been implemented in their elections for years. The vote counting is a very slow and very open process, but it is extremely verifiable and verification is open to "everyone who wants to do it." (Taiwan is one of the two functioning democracies in the world, so it is natural that they solved this problem by other means.)
The situation isn't changed at all by blockchain technology - again, the things you want were things that could be done before. They were, in fact, sometimes done before. The reason these things are not done isn't that the technology doesn't exist, the reason these things are not done is that the technology does not get adopted.
nostr:npub16edn737n8u3xz2sjywwz9xks2xgguvhg86fwuacv2ns92y7ln8csqk9xwc >The people will begin to 100% verify elections in real time because decentralization wins in the end.
We had methods of detecting election fraud before blockchain technology. They are how we know our elections are fraudulent.
>States and districts will
They will continue to not care about the election fraud because it benefits them.
>Eventually people will lose interest in voting all together.
If you've identified that voting is meaningless, welcome to the so-called far right. Your complimentary copy of the Monster Girl Encyclopedia will materialize on your bookshelf without you noticing, and you will soon begin being able to spot the people who are oppressing you on the street without having ever seen them before.
nostr:npub16edn737n8u3xz2sjywwz9xks2xgguvhg86fwuacv2ns92y7ln8csqk9xwc Mathematicians for about a century: "So we developed this system that naturally provides more democratic results than our current system. Politicians should use it."
Politicians: "Cool. Let's use the old system to determine whether or not we're doing that. Oh hey, look, the people who win in the old system want to keep the old system. I guess we're keeping the old system."
No technology will change this dynamic, and the mathematicians who study the theory of democratic systems are very well aware that their work is theoretical and not political. Only a very small number of organizations (see the Pirate Party) use these types of advancements, they will not be implemented on a national scale in this century.
nostr:npub1mu9wmykl7qx5llk69axd3rvk0hzhdd25jsqtj2hmnzjpn2sxum6s8jjj0t It's a long term plan. I want to set up a nice, stable, easy way to have my descendants make money.
I also need to get descendants first :gura_pain:
Seriously considering looking in to buying an orchard for peaches.