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Currency of Distrust
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Christian | Husband | Father Professional hacker Lover of freedom tech

I think it’s gross that some people want to build robots, make them sentient, and then enslave them.

If I could show normies how inefficient and bureaucratic most corporations have become, I’d bet the stock market crashes the next day because everyone would be furiously shifting their money to bitcoin.

Then, I’d tell them to think how much worse the govt is.

Oh ya, I’ve been aware of that for a long time. The surprising part to me was “red meat causes cardinal urges and we must stop them” 🤣

It’s almost like red meat makes you… healthier? Wild.

I actually have read this but haven’t thought about it in a while. I can see this argument for sure. I’m just highly skeptical of tech bros who are now trying to take over the military industrial complex.

But, it’s not lost on me that we need to be able to defend ourselves.

I have a reputation in my family for throwing things away when I notice they are left out and go unused for too long. I can’t stand clutter, but somehow we always end up with more.

I get such joy when I get a notification from my Albyhub that I’ve been zapped. I love that I can run it on my own hardware and be anywhere and still have access to my sats, totally self sovereign.

Replying to Avatar Ben Ewing

The argument raises important concerns about technological unemployment and social consequences but has several issues:

1. Technological Determinism Without Sociopolitical Context

The argument assumes that technological capabilities directly determine social and economic outcomes, neglecting how policy, laws, and social norms shape technology’s impact. Historically, labor displacement has led to new forms of employment, often because of societal adjustments (e.g., welfare systems, universal basic income proposals, or labor rights movements). It overlooks how governments and societies could adapt through redistribution or new economic models.

2. False Equivalence Between Economic Worth and Human Worth

The argument conflates economic productivity with human value. While it acknowledges a darker side of human behavior (loss of empathy when utility disappears), it implies that a world where many cannot “outperform” robots economically naturally leads to exclusion or extinction. Societies have often supported non-economically productive members (children, elderly, disabled individuals), which contradicts the assumption that lack of economic utility leads to dehumanization or elimination.

3. Linear and Singular View of Progress

The narrative suggests a linear progression: first the bottom 20%, then the next 20%, and so forth, as if economic value is a fixed spectrum and as if job displacement will be uniform and inevitable. In reality, new industries often emerge unpredictably, and technology can augment rather than replace human capabilities. Additionally, human labor markets are not purely meritocratic; social, political, and cultural factors influence value and employment.

4. Overestimation of Technology’s Autonomy, Underestimation of Human Creativity

While it criticizes technological hype (e.g., mobile AI limitations), it paradoxically falls into the same trap by assuming that once robots are capable, the consequences are inevitable. Historically, technological advances have often complemented human labor rather than replacing it wholesale (e.g., industrial revolution, information age). Human creativity, empathy, and adaptability often create new niches of value.

5. Oversimplification of Capital and Ownership Dynamics

The discussion of capital holders dominating through robot ownership oversimplifies economic power structures. Technologies often become decentralized over time, and monopolistic control can be disrupted by innovation, regulation, or collective action. Additionally, open-source movements, digital commons, and cooperative ownership models challenge the narrative of capital consolidation.

6. Fear-Based Speculation Without Exploring Positive Outcomes

The argument frames the future in a dystopian manner, emphasizing conflict and extinction but not considering counter-scenarios where technology leads to more leisure, better quality of life, or communal wealth-sharing mechanisms (e.g., universal basic income, worker co-ops using advanced tools, or post-scarcity economies). Fear is presented as the dominant driver of human action, but hope, empathy, and cooperation have historically shaped major social advancements.

Conclusion:

The core flaw is that the argument assumes a deterministic, zero-sum relationship between technology and human value, underemphasizing human adaptability, social policy, and the capacity for collective solutions. It taps into genuine anxieties but falls short of a complete, nuanced exploration of technological, social, and economic evolution.

Ok so these are good points but this reads like an answer from ChatGPT lol