Subnostr

WoS only requires your email to back it up, but there’s no reason you couldn’t spin up a side email (ideally at protonmail) to use just for that. And honestly I’m not sure how much info any of these apps learn by default when you download them from the App Store.

Ultimately, KYC isn’t all or nothing. In the most serious circumstance, it’s an entity having all of your identifying info and associating it with every Bitcoin purchase/transaction you make.

An email or a debit card number is identifiable, but doesn’t result in the same honeypot of hackable personal data.

I like the “separate side by side stacks” model. Two separate wallets, two separate sets of addresses. One is KYC’d and bought on an exchange, using spot purchases, easy DCA, and limit orders. Usually this is someone’s first stack.

Then a separate one, purchased privately peer to peer.

Tagging in #[4] whom I believe has some great resources on this topic, but I can’t find them at the moment

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Wow thank you so much for all that! I’ll def give

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boston wine

(ie you can often find 2-5% premiums in popular currencies, as opposed to 10-15% at the atms)

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Yea 100% agree. Only time I would even mention the ATM would be in the initial purchase for non KYC but apparently only at a certain set of ATMs. Robosats/bisq or any peer to peer method would be the ideal and ultimate way

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Yeah I just need to keep looking. That last one was 😖

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

There’s an app called “Coin ATM Radar” that I’ve seen posted in here somewhere that will locate them and some provide verification terms and fee %

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BTC ATM? The last one I tried wanted everything short of a DNA sample. Are there non kyc ones out there?

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

If I understand correctly they are made by different vendors and some of them don’t collect any info aside from phone # for sms verification (a $20 burner phone solves this) up to a certain amount. Might be like $2000 worth at some.

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boston wine

It’s a great platform!

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Side question on your mentioning of using zaps from a non KYC wallet.. would you consider something like WoS which takes your email, or any sats earned on apps like sMile and thndr games (also takes email I believe) to be KYC?

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boston wine

True that. Same for robosats on that first buy.

If you’ve saved up some zaps in any non-kyc Lightning wallet, you might be able to use those as escrow for a smaller initial purchase, and then scale up from there on future buys

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Ahhh good to know about robosats. Haven’t used that one thanks for the heads up!

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boston wine

Do Fold or Strike work in your region?

You can also try a peer to peer option like Bisq or Robosats (highly recommend)

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

👆 👆. Just keep in mind if bisq is the choice that you need to have bitcoin in the wallet to use as escrow and you may want to get some non-kyc for that purpose (coinjoin, BTC atm, etc.)

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Nature really is beautiful.

Cardinal came to visit the bird feeder today!

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Marks

ah man that sucks then. most promising team and it crumbled in drama

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Yea part of me knew it wasn’t gunna work, just hopeful

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freecritter

Sign of #bitcoin growth how many quality choices there are now 🤙

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Yea it’s a blessing and a curse lol, I just would feel more comfortable with a product that prioritizes security and open sourced (I think ledger is full of crap and prioritizes profits as opposed to keeping their users information safe)

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Marks

i’m still on trezor but i see cold card recommended lots.

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

I hear good things about both, but your right the coldcard seems to have a really good reputation among the community

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Marks

nice to have some normie talk on occasion. i’m giving you a follow 🤙

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Followed back my good sir!

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Marks

Durant joining the team left a bad taste in my mouth. I wanted Booker and CP3 to make it happen but Paul doesn’t seem to be able to get to that level.

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Yea as a nets fan I’m extremely over his shit lol

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Bitcuts

Jade is pretty awesome it has multi sig option built in. 2fa and time stamped features that can be used for inheritance.

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Yea I really like the jade, I am partially leaving that way and it helps that it’s BTC only. Thank you for your input friend !

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freecritter

Coldcard or #[2] are great options.

Also #[3] is an even more economical option.

BTC_Saiyan 2y ago

Wow great recommendations I didn’t even consider the seed signer 🤦🏻‍♂️. Now that I know foundation is also open source I did really like their design so now this decision just got harder! Lmao thank you for that friend !