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Replying to Avatar Rory ₿ Sailor

When does one sell their ₿itcoin?

The answer is simple when something means more to them than their ₿itcoin.

I wanted to create a memory of my dad & I going to a track day together, racing motorcycles around the track, battling each other for a better lap time, stopping for lunch chatting about how each other is riding & all the rest of that jazz.

I have watched him race many times before, albeit only ever from the side line, with his health deteriorating fast to the point he may never get on another motorcycle again, I decided I needed to act quickly & I would sell some ₿itcoin to achieve this goal when I mentioned to him I wanted to buy a bike he told me I was "too old to learn how to ride a motorcycle".

That didn't stop me wanting to buy one, I decided I was going to ask for forgiveness instead of permission.

This didn't sit right with me though, so I told my father I'm buying a bike regardless, he said "ok if I can't stop you at least get a bike I want to ride as well & I'll go you half's". This was great I would only need to sell half as much ₿itcoin as I thought.

Although I couldn't shake the feeling of, in 4 or 5 years time I would look at the current ₿itcoin price and work out how much the bike actually cost me.

I then decided to play the fiat game & I would look at getting a loan for the bike.

When I was looking into loans, the companies that would be making money off the interest they charged me wanted to give me more money (so strange right?). I thought why not get more fiat, I took a loan out for the bike plus an extra amount which worked out the same as the price for the bike, I told my dad to keep his money I bought the bike and bought the equivalent amount of ₿itcoin.

The loan is for 7 yrs very typical. Now not only do I get to keep my original ₿itcoin, I got the motorcycle, I'm creating memories with my father before I can't anymore, and I also got to increase my stack.

I have something real, the bike.

I have something strategic, the ₿itcoin.

but most importantly,

I have something priceless, memories with my father.

I did the same thing last year when shopping for a new work truck.

I 'bought' the truck 0% down. I took on a personal loan at the same time, for half the truck MSRP. Stacked a bunch of sats that could today just about pay off the truck entirely, only 9 months later.

Before that, a few years ago, I leveraged up my borrowing on my primary residence; down to 20% equity. I've safely handled the increased mortgage payment and the sats stacked. I am very glad I did this.

When all you want is the sats, it makes these nice-to-haves feel fairly fiat. But it's nice to have notes and other stuff, every so often.

Have fun with your Dad!

Replying to Avatar Carman

My favorite was the zoom

Just pick up a book and read it

A huge thank you to, Satoshi and each individual that spend their time and energy on Bitcoin.

Replying to Avatar Dikaios1517

Thank you! I appreciate that encouragement!

Let me see if I can answer the particular questions you had, and then I will think about writing something long-form on the subject.

There are a few different types of pools now. Your bog-standard mining pool, like Braiins, Luxor, or F2Pool, allow individual miners to point their hashrate at the pool's stratum server, so that the pool is determining which transactions are included in the blocks found by any miner in the pool. Additionally, they don't pay the miners in the pool directly from the block rewards. Instead, the block reward goes 100% to the pool, and they credit each miner's account held at the pool based on the proportion of hashrate they are contributing to the effort of finding a block.

Worse than that, though, a handful of these pool operators aren't even constructing the block templates they send to miners on their pool. Instead, they are just using the same block template as AntPool. Meaning that AntPool has an even more outsized influence on which transactions make it into blocks than their pool's hashrate alone suggests.

What is more, most of them use the FPPS payout method, which means they credit their miners accounts on a set schedule, regardless of whether the pool finds a block. This means they need to have plenty of Bitcoin set aside for times when they get unlucky and the pool doesn't find any blocks, but they still need to credit the miners.

There are other mining pools which only credit the miners' accounts when the pool actually finds a block, but those are becoming few and far between these days.

These pools also typically have a minimum amount you need to accumulate in your account (e.g. at least 100k sats) with the pool before they will allow you to withdraw. The exception would be Braiins, since you can auto-withdraw via Lightning even very small amounts. This can create pool lock-in, since miners won't want to switch pools if they still have a ways to go before they earn enough sats to withdraw.

Next we have the lottery pools, like Public Pool or Solo CKPool. They are similar to the other pools previously mentioned in that you point your miner's hashrate at THEIR stratum server, so they are controlling which transactions end up in a block by creating the block template for you. However, if your miner finds the block, you will be the only one on the pool to receive the block reward (minus pool fees). Conversely, if someone else on the pool finds a block, you get nothing.

Then there's OCEAN. When they started, the only option was to point your miner's hashrate at their stratum server, so they 100% dictated which transactions made it into blocks, just like all the other pools, but what differentiated them was that the block reward didn't go to the pool to then be credited to miners' accounts. Instead, miners with enough hashrate were paid DIRECTLY within the block. Those without enough hashrate to justify the creation of a UTXO still had to wait until they accumulated enough to get a payout, though.

Then OCEAN allowed miners to pick between a few different block templates, based on how strictly they wanted to filter out spam from any block they found, or even choose not to filter at all. This in itself had never been done before by a pool that I am aware of.

They also added the option to receive payouts via Lightning. So now the bigger miners could receive on-chain payouts directly from the block reward, and the small fries, like me, could get paid immediately via Lightning, even if it was just 40 sats at a time.

That still wasn't good enough for OCEAN, though. They didn't want to be in control of which transactions make it into a block AT ALL. Not even by offering a few different options to choose from. They wanted each miner to be able to create their own block templates using their own node's mempool data. This was the promise made to us by those developing Stratum V2, but it was taking a while for that protocol to be ready, so OCEAN created DATUM. Now the only thing that OCEAN has to do is send the miners the reward split for them to include in their blocks, and if they find a block, they don't have to send anything to the pool. They just use their node to broadcast the block they found, with the reward split to the other OCEAN miners, to the rest of the network directly.

Finally, DATUM has enabled those who want to lottery mine to cut out the need for connecting to a pool at all. Instead, they just connect to their DATUM server, which gets transaction data from their mempool to include in the block, and sends the block reward directly to their Bitcoin address, should they find a block. Of course, because they are not contributing to the efforts of a pool, and are giving themselves the full reward, they also get no reward at all in the much greater likelihood that they never find a block. But then, that's why it's called lottery mining, right?

There's also a new pool on the scene, finally using Stratum V2 to allow miners to construct their own block templates (I think), called DMND pool. Going to have to do some research to see exactly how this compares to the way DATUM works on OCEAN.

As far as your second question, the difficulty your miner is capable of achieving and its hashrate are not connected to one another. A 20TH machine will find very low difficulty hashes and very high difficulty hashes, and if they find a high enough difficulty hash before any other miner does, they find a block. Same with a 1TH BitAxe. Some pools just won't give you any credit for hashes below a certain difficulty. The more hashrate you have, the more hashes you will find that meet that requirement, but it should still be pretty proportional, so a 20TH machine will find 20x the hashes that meet the minimum difficulty as a 1TH BitAxe.

The only viable pools to use a BitAxe with, though, are going to be ones that pay out via Lightning, or lottery pools, where you only get paid if your BitAxe happens to find a block. That is due to the amount of sats you need to earn to meet minimum withdrawal restrictions for on-chain payouts, though, and nothing to do with the BitAxe's ability to generate hashes with sufficient difficulty.

Now that I have answered both those questions, all of the above could probably just be a long-form note. 😂

Hey Brisket, yeah that could work well for sure, maybe ill have to give that a go! Packaging might be more appealing as well.

I had used some silicone molds in the past and made 2gram 'chiplets', but it was very annoying to pop them all out and have to handle them. I was digging my hand in my bag of chiplets each time I used them.

These ones i used paper souffle portion cups so ease of use and handling. I seared a couple large ribeyes last night with (1) 7gram portion and it worked just great.