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👨🏻‍🌾 Meshtadel August 8 (later today)

🕰️ 20:00 UTC

On NOSTR Nests 🪺

Topic of Discussion? Whatever’s on your heart.

New Episode of Pleb Miner Monthly on BitBuyBit Pod

https://fountain.fm/episode/jfrvm1hAaBTRQkwdRskn

Yes sir. On the todo list. The question is what to do with the sats and control of the wallet.

For now I’ll just set it up and we can decide as a group what to do with the sats.

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I think it was nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs who argued that bitcoiners and grandmothers basically give the same advice:

-Save money, go for walks, plant a garden, eat real food, don't trust the banks, focus on your community, get some sun, etc.

I think that comparison is under-marketed. We need some memes about it or something.

This is the community we foster in the #Meshtadel

Permaculture

Family

Community (local and beyond)

Culture

Sovereignty

Bitcoin is but a tool we yield to empower and enable the previous

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#MestadelMushing @800100

"Custodial (lightning) wallets are good for my LT HODLing 👀"

One of the reasons I still look at f.e. Twitter is because I want to keep exposing myself to takes that are in conflict with my own (current) believes. On the other hand a lot of takes are just plainly retarded and not challenging at all so I just take an opposing view, trying to see things from another point, sort of self-adversarial thinking.

My controversial take of today states something I would strongly disagree with myself in the past, so how did I get to this statement, and how would I justify this weird take 🤔

There is once in a while a spiraling discussion/hot take on how we should not recommend custodial wallets to noobs (or anyone else for that matter). Instantly my personal duality is reverberating on those by agreeing and disagreeing at the same time, simply because: It is so much easier for a noob to first play with some free Sats on an easy tool, and then to understand more and dig deeper ending up in the rabbit hole of their choice.

In my view it would be hard to convince people to switch to something harder to do without a clear instant benefit (we are trying to revert high time preference people, which is best done with a low time preference😉). You can see in society that people are being conditioned to use tracker money by presenting it as something fast and easy. So the way to introducing them to Sats has to be just as (or even more) fast and easy. Including installing the tool (app.).

On the long run I would hope my orange pilled subject is turning to self custody ASAP, but as with anything: I point out my point of view, afterwards to each their own.

But what for me? In full disclosure, I hade a good Lightning node running, until I ran into some DB issues on that node that coalesced with some DB issues in my head 😅. I closed channels and put node in figurative fridge.

So how does this turn into the above statement?

For a lot of plebs Sats are the solution to keep anonymity, freedom, and above all the absence of stringent control over the movement of their financial transactions.

When buying goods that are delivered to an home address, is it a good thing then to pay for that good in Bitcoin?

Maybe there is no other way, or you just want to support that specific project, there is some information you will always give up some information (Such as: You at least know about Bitcoin 😉) depending on your knowledge and relevant skills.

I am a good example since I am not that technically skilled/experienced, and still I am at least more aware than a good chunk of people around me.

For those who do not understand how to take better care of their privacy, it might be a good idea to diversify:

- Some Sats, KYC'ed or not, on a custodial lightning wallet.

- Some Sats on a non-custodial lightning wallet,

- And some generational wealth that you put into the safest storage that fulfils your personal needs.

And any other mix you want to explore and study.

Having a custodial lighting wallet allows people to have some "Quick and dirty" spendable sats. If it is to play, or to showcase potential new-coiners that Bitcoin is not only the "old and boring" (read reliable and safe), it takes at least one worry away:

These Q&D Sats don't instantly trace back to "a CJ utxo I want to keep secret" or "the grandchildren utxo that grew a lot more valuable over time that might tempt a 10$ wrench attack"

We can all agree a custodial wallet is not a good place to store a substantial portion of your Sats long term. But if you have some money on you that you can pull out in any situation, you don't have to worry that anyone sees you rummaging through your 'strongbox'.

In conclusion: that custodial (lightning) wallet makes absolute sense to me, at least when a privacy focused OG shakes their head disapprovingly when they see me paying with f.e. a Wallet of Satoshi, maybe I was just able to obfuscate my knowledge 😉

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Nice touch on adjusting the price of a wrench due to inflation

Zelko of https://ronindojo.io/ with Max on the latest episode of BitBuyBit.

This is the Meshtadel concept at work right here. Build your local network, trade in Bitcoin of V4V locally for goods and services, and connect that node to the greater Meshtadel.

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Listen to the entire episode https://fountain.fm/episode/XOpnpd9TvgTE3bsXotoZ https://nostr.build/av/00eaafcce8744f7c27adf799b078ab9ecaf18f2cd7cfa419aa4301a4ab60c579.mov

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#PlebMinerMonthly on BitBuyBit Pod

Episode 7

https://fountain.fm/episode/nWKaJHJQPfKiwZI97asQ

Meshtadel July 8th, 2023, Block Height 797,859

This was our first Meshtadel on noster nests.

The initial topic of the Meshtadel was to self-examine how well we as Meshtadelians are doing on the development of our eight forms of capital.

To review the eight forms of capital are: intellectual, spiritual, social, material, financial, living, cultural, and experiential.

Karl has a wonderful presentation that he's given within the Meshtadel on the 8 forms of capital, it is in the pinned messages on our Telegram group.

SoulExporter returned to the Meshtadel on this call. It was good to have some of our “Soul” back, as we’ve all missed him very much. He has been working on building his local network and as he stated in the call, “If your local network is lacking, what good are you in an International Meshtadel.” He has been working on creating a Bitcoin presentation for what he calls “English beers.” His time off allowed him to see the perspective of a no coiner.

Interesting note, one of the most aggressive attacks on Bitcoin. 184 Bitcoin were fraudulently mined/awarded/created on August 15, 2010 at Block height 74,639.

We discussed the value of material capital and how perhaps in the past, material capital had more value because it was of higher quality, therefore could last longer and perhaps be handed down to your heirs. Perhaps one of the consequences of modern consumerism is material capital may be less abundant in the future.

Regarding material capital, newer isn’t necessarily better. We came up with the analogy of a hand drill versus an electrical drill. Although the hand drill is rudimentary, it can last longer, it doesn't require the tether of modern amenities like electricity. Additionally, the hand drill requires greater experiential capital to operate.

TK and Mrs. TK made the points that the lines separating the 8 forms are blurred and hard to define. That one form of capital leads into another. This allowed Karl to point out the 9th form of capital, “vital capital” your health and mental well-being.

Karl also made the great point that he journals often and reflects on how well he is doing in his eight forms of capital. This is a good exercise in preparedness.

TK stated how permeable the limits of the categories are. If the drill is useful, beautiful, historical, it can be used for multiple purposes. One drill pays into 5 different accounts.

TIME is the ultimate capital, find intersections and overlaps is how you become resiliently wealthy, you’ve spent your time weaving this web together. Once you’re aware of the concepts, spend your time building multiple forms at one and it simply runs in the background.

Dehydrating goods with a miner was discussed as well as the design of such an apparatus.

I wasn't able to take notes for the rest of the call and was quite distracted. So perhaps others could recall the discussion.

Jimmy G jumped on the call and it was good to hear from him.

I was able to catch the end ShiShi and Rafa finished out the call with great discussion on permaculture techniques comfrey an Egyptian walking onion, also known as tree onions.

Just a reminder that Meshtadel calls are held every 8th of the month at 20:00 UTC. If other Meshtadelians would like to resume the 21st of every month call we can do that too, anyone is free to initiate the calls on noster nests or telegram or jitsi. We are on nostr now, (obviously), please follow.