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We're at the point where many people — even those who don't want to vote for the AfD — are happy to just have the AfD gain ground, to send a message that

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freemymind 🇨🇭 4d ago

I can imagine that many people actually feel that frustrated, that they are happy seeing bad politics being smashed.

But I think this is far from reasonable. Very naive.

When we want to live in a good society, people with working solutions are key. These individuals can work in the private sector, in public sector and as politics.

I think the key is prefering working models over easy models. Sometimes solutions are easy, sometimes they are complicated. But in the end it does not matter if a solution is easy or complicated. It is only important that it works.

Populist go an other way. They propose easy solutions. Even when they are not solvong any problem with it.

Like pointing fingers on scapegoats. We know from history, that human are able to violate scapegoats. We know that human are able to kill scapegoats. But all the hate and all the fingerpoivting, does not make them the real cause of our problems.

And in consequence killing them and violating them does not bring anybody to a better reality.

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Laeserin 4d ago

The problem has become that some of the parties we voted for, last round, didn't make it into parliament. The options, for liberals, are extremely thin on the ground, now. You can only refuse to vote, vote for AfD, or throw away your vote on Freier Wähler or FDP or similar.

We've been effectively locked out of government and opposition.

freemymind 🇨🇭 4d ago

But you do not legitimate voting for violation of liberal values, when there is no liberal in the parlament?

I mean as long as there is no Liberal in the parlament, it is as more important to form liberal unions, be active and speak out liberal values, even when they are disliked by some.

Ideas can find support in other parties that are in parlament. It is to make the extra mile and connect liberal ideas to their parties goals.

Laeserin 4d ago

It's questionable for liberals to effectively boycott elections or vote for more of the same, when the government is being run into the ground by the other parties and there is some hope of alleviation by a new entrant.

I don't vote for the AfD, but I'm not going to throw shade at liberals who do. It is a tough decision, with no good choices. Voting for the AfD is the only choice that might result in positive change, in the medium-term.