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Jesus fulfilled the Law. The Old Testament is supposed to give us background information, for interpreting the New Testament. It isn't our model for life. Thankfully.

I reject the idea that Christianity is "just like Islam or Judaism". It is fundamentally different, not least in that the only violence it condones is self-defense, which is a Natural Right.

freemymind 🇨🇭 10mo ago

I need to admit, that I neighter studied the Bible nor the Thora or the Koran.

I know, that I support selfdefense and disqualify offensive violence. There seems to be the common ground between you and me Laeserin.

So could we might go one step further and say, that people who live by those values of "not using violence offensively, but only as a defensive measure" can take part of our community?

With this I do not mean, integration is unimportant. But I only want to find some common ground we can stand together. I am happy for your idea, what common ground we are standing on.

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

yeah, unfortunately i'm of the opinion that most of the dense populated areas of europe are doomed

the number of ways in which their destruction has been planned and executed are many and the consequences are getting worse and worse

the real underlying reason for the continued aggression of NATO against Russia in ukraine has really been about a money and weapons transfer to arm and equip all of the probably hundreds of radical violent religious terrorist organisations all across europe

if people think it's bad now with maniacs running people over, wait until they start encircling large public events and detonating large ordnance, and i guarantee there will be violence against many religious organisations especially during their gatherings

and then they will pile on top of that "we must do something" and do like they did to yugoslavia and bomb it all to the stone age... and by all i mean... paris, amsterdam, copenhagen, berlin, vienna

anyway, that's all coming, i just know they didn't deliver most of the arms shipments to ukraine, some 70% is unaccounted for, and if you consider that this 30% was enough to keep them warring at the front on the east of ukraine against russia, yeah that's a lot of power for terrorists that has suddenly been "lost"

freemymind 🇨🇭 10mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_homicide_rates

One can tell many things. But in europe, there is not a big problem with gun violence. There still is, and it is great to find ways to counter them.

But no comparison to America.

I just assumed you are american, when you talk about Europe like this. It seems to me you do not know much how save it is here.

And it is quiet obvious you misunderstand something. There is no agressive action from NATO. NATO is a defensive allience. So NATO helps Ukraine to defend their teritory.

Laeserin 10mo ago

He's a European in Europe.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

i was born in australia but my father was dutch born in indonesia and my opa was born in Apeldoorn in the east of the Netherlands, and my oma was child of a swiss father and indonesian mother

Laeserin 10mo ago

He's referring to the gun-mafia siphoning off part of the weapons deliveries to the Ukraine and Russian armies and selling them on the black market. The weapons have been turning up in completely different countries.

Laeserin 10mo ago

https://www.osce.org/secretariat/577684

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 10mo ago

lol, yeah of course they are helping... cover it up...

Laeserin 10mo ago

Yes, but only if they see it as an absolute rule, and not something that is "flexible" or situational. They have to roundly and publicly condemn it.

I don't think we'll see most Muslims doing this. They will sometimes do it in regards to some particular instance, where they judged it to be excessive (those are easy, like, don't drive your car onto a playground), but it's difficult for them to give a blanket statement, for theological reasons.