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I'm probably too one-sided against Israel. So let me make a case for Israel.

Hezbollah has been firing rockets at it for almost a year. Those rockets are not guided and their targets are not certain, making them war crimes and "terrorism". They come from various places, mostly from valleys in the mountains, but also from residential areas. If Israel is held to the standard of "you cannot use war crimes or terrorism in response" that puts Israel at a distinct disadvantage and they just lose. Of course they aren't going to just sit there and take it. When they did air strikes on Southern Lebanon they hit many civilian residential targets which then experienced many subsequent explosions (indicating they hit a cache of weapons) or several rockets came flying out in spirals like a fireworks stand (again indicating that they hit a cache of weapons). You can find the videos. I can attest to seeing some of these on live-stream so they aren't AI generated.

Now I believe that Hezbollah's aims are noble, to pressure Israel to stop the genocide. But their methods include terrorism, war crimes, and intentionally placing military assets among cilivilan neighborhoods.

Just because one side is committing crimes doesn't mean the other side isn't.

Many innocent Lebanese are dying, as well as many innocent Israelis, and war is hell.

I predict it will get much worse, because Israel has just repeatedly escalated over and over without even IMHO a good reason to have done so, leaving their enemies little choice than to escalate and possibly even do a ground invasion of Israel or S Lebanon or both.

I hear there are 40,000 Hezbollah ground troops in the Syrian Golan Heights ready to invade.

I hear there are 40,000 US troops throughout the middle east, as well as new troops amassing at Cyprus and the 101st Airborne.

Russia has a naval base at Tartus (North of Beirut in Syria) a city that Israel attacked four days ago (I don't know what the target was). They have an S-500 here, the placement of which put an end to Israeli fighter jet activity in Syria (Russia said they would shoot them down). Russia should be able to shoot down Israeli fighter jets attacking Beirut, but they haven't done so and I don't believe they ever told Israel they would shoot down their planes in Lebanon, only in Syria.

There are lots of ways this could pay out.

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anything Israel does militarily can ultimately be justified

what cannot be justified is their continual stealing of land

their "buffer zones" their "settlements" and all their other JEWING

because Israel can't and won't stop stealing land they forfeit all their rights

any Israeli that doesn't explicitly condemn the constant stealing of land deserves to die

Every Hezbollah rocket serves the Israeli agenda. October 7th served Israel’s agenda. Hamas means “violence” in Hebrew.

Looking at the US’s success convincing the world that Osama Bin Laden was the most dangerous man alive when he’s very existence was dubious leads me to believe that most of this “terrorism” is the IDF firing rockets at empty fields to justify the rest of their actions.

There was a war for control of Palestine but it was over almost a century ago. The rest is just predicate for expansion IMHO.

Yes, the war cabinet wanted the excuse to do what they have always planned to do, and there is some evidence that they set up the excuse.

HAMAS is an acronym for Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, and their militant unit is the Ezzedeen Al-Qassam Brigades. Mostly people mean Al-Qassam when they say Hamas, but they say Hamas since Westerners don't usually make the distinction from political Hamas and military Hamas.

I always remember something after I post that adds more subtelty and context. Many rockets from S. Lebanon were targetted well enough to take out iron dome sensors and such. And many were not towards anything in particular, just designed to trigger an iron dome response in order to deplete the iron dome. So I shouldn't say they were all war crimes. Some were.

if i really wanted to i could make a case for serial killers and rapists.

would that make intelligent or open minded ?

perhaps. but i am already that.

would it add any value the the conversation ?

doubtful.

some typos in the above but the point is your urge to be "fair and balanced" is misguided

a REAL ALPHA ( me ) is not afraid to make outrageous incendiary statements because i know i can back them up

constantly apologizing for having a hint of an opinion is meant to accomplish what exactly ?

to show that you're able to see the other side ? to put yourself into the shoes of your opponent ?

granted, most people can't do this, ok NOBODY EXCEPT ME AND YOU can do it but it's still a cringe flex because you just keep doing it over and over - STAHP LOL

i can also argue Israel's side - but why the fuck would i ? Netanyahu is already doing it. it's cringe.

CRINGE ! ! !

Hezbollah's aims are noble?

are you a Jew ?

Yes. Why do you ask?

You're commenting on a conflict - seems prudent you would disclose you have a dog in this fight.

What’s important to you about having “a dog in the fight”?

because i have no interest in debating somebody who would never change their position regardless of any of my arguments or evidence.

you will always believe Hezbollah are terrorists - that's cool - you should go and fight them then

not debate online pretending to be neutral

What makes you assume another person intends to be neutral?

yeah to be honest with you all these arguments are a waste of time but some people enter into them not knowing why they are doing it - just to see where it takes them - and we can hopefully convert those to our side

on other hand a Jew is entering this argument with only one goal - to deploy his lifetime of experience in propagandizing for Israel ...

Are you saying you’re not willing to change your position?

to be honest there is a 0% chance of me changing my position.

i am a Jew, i used to want to move to Israel, i was a huge fan of "Isratrance" in college and believed all the Israeli lies about Arabs selling poisoned ecstasy at music festivals in Israel ...

fast forward 20 years and the same propaganda is being used against Arabs - using fake victims at a Music Festival ... except instead of spreading lies about poisoned MDMA you just machine gunned the festival with IDF helicopters then said Hamas did this ...

as you may know the biggest Jew haters are Jews themselves and i am proud of being one

Who specifically is using fake victims at a Music Festival?

the victims were real, but they were not victims of Hamas but IDF

also being a New Yorker it didn't help when Israel did 9-11

you Zios have lost the plot. nobody in a right mind can support what you're doing.

No one can support what who is doing?

Zionists seek to steal the land of all who live in the middle east and in order to get Americans to support them they had orchestrated 9-11 attacks killing 3,000 new Yorkers in order to blame it on Muslims

then on October 7 they machine gunned their own children at a Music Festival to blame it on Muslims again

the same as they also Machine Gunned USS Liberty ... and a countless number of other terrorist attacks and inside jobs that are well documented

i don't support Hezbollah or Hamas - their causes are idiotic - they can't possibly achieve anything

but i condemn Zionist for their nonstop slaughter of people on all sides - both Arabs, Americans and even Israelis - all just to keep stealing land that they simply could have bought with the same money that is being spent on weapons ...

Your first claim is that Zionists seek to steal the land of all who live in the Middle East. It seems like you’re prepared to present evidence that supports your claims.

it's literally all the Zionists have been doing since the foundation of Israel

the map below shows just the loss of Palestinian land:

but Israel also stole land from others for example Golan Heights from Syria

and Israeli Government Officials are currently openly talking about creating a "Buffer Zone" ( stealing land ) in Lebanon

i am done with your Zionist ass

you are muted

Is that map your evidence?

anyway stop playing dumb or i'm going to mute you.

What do you hope to achieve if you mute me?

Seems more a matter of world view through a very long lens of history - at the philosophical level. Cultural, religious and historically violent clashes over land and sovereignty in a more concrete sense. Each side feels justified and forced into a last stand mentality, or is able to use the feeling to good effect, while many powerful external forces are playing at “geopolitic”…but they continually manage to fuck things up for everyone but the arms dealers, bankers and lobbyists.

There is no justification. Unfortunately Israelis are from birth indoctrinated to believe in their racial superiority and that they are victimised from all sides particularly from the Arabs. This is taught to them in school and they are also taught to see the Palestinians as less than human trying to steal “their land” given to them as gods chosen people. This in their minds justifies their barbarity. Children in prison, rapes including of said children, murder and mutilation, torture camps, mass executions of doctors and hospital staff, mass graves with people buried alive. Nothing justifies this barbarity.

Israel is using their population as human shields by financing civilian settlers (aka land robbers) to steal more land in west bank. That's a crime to incentive settlers into annexed Territory.

So according to Israel theory, Israelis there are all human shields and Israel is to blame