Nostr Web Client

Another benefit of an "outbox model" is that it's asking only their relays about their notes (without auth) so still somewhat private.

Not entirely sure yet how to have a private relay fetch these without access to decrypt the list. Will have to think about this one, perhaps lists could be shared with other pubkeys.

daniele 1y ago

I don't grasp your concerns, why would a relay ever decrypt anything? Can you elaborate?

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Braydon Fuller 1y ago

For a relay that has your and your networks events with relay-to-relay network topology. I'm working on a tool for strfry that will use a configured pubkey to grab the `kind 3` (NIP-02) contact/follow list and then sync (with negentropy) and stream events for those contacts from their relays defined in `kind 10002` (NIP-65). I haven't added support for other lists other than `kind 3` yet, however it could easily. However, if the list is encrypted, then it wouldn't be able to do that.

daniele 1y ago

Interesting.

What's the ultimate goal of this tool?

Braydon Fuller 1y ago

A few things, however, it solves a problem I have now in Amethyst, which is that many notes are only "seen" by one or two relays (and without connecting to many more relays listed via NIP-65 for contacts).

Once complete, Amethyst connects to that private relay (and a few others) and it will stream and sync from many hundreds to thousands of relays. Much more than just a few as it is currently.

daniele 1y ago

> a problem I have now in Amethyst, which is that many notes are only "seen" by one or two relays

This should not be a problem, it is how the Outbox model works. Any other additional relay comes from a broadcast from users that interact with the event and this organically increase the decentralization and reachability of user's content.

It seems that you want to create an hybrid client/really, that actually could be useful in edge cases to support "thin clients", especially on mobile.

Braydon Fuller 1y ago

Right, however in my case, I noticed the relay was either a paid relay that we happen to share (single point of failure) or a wot relay that uses someone elses pubkey (not including my contacts, even if I'm in theirs) and will probably only store notes temporarily.

Yes that is part of it. With many different clients; short notes, git collaboration, long notes, video, audio, markets (desktop or mobile) and etc. (desktop or mobile), it could get quite complex for each separately to do all the heavy lifting of communicating with thousands of relays, etc. etc.