of all the years I worked doing design, InDesign was my absolute favorite tool. very misunderstood. most people use it wrongly as if it was a sort of illustrator where in reality it is an automation beast. you're not supposed to go and fiddle with things directly, you need to use styles for everything. once you understand that concept and the power it gives, you'll find it all makes sense...
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You know, I am just realizing that I meant to write Illustrator in my post. Not sure why I wrote InDesign 🤦🏽.
Totally get your point about InDesign. For things like book layouts, you want to work with a solid grid and text styles and let things automatically flow.
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well yes, illustrator is a shitshow since forever. adobe should have kept freehand as the vector tool when they bought macromedia. much more intuitive with that sort of stuff.