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Very insightful 🥳

I always wonder about the argument of natural swings in temperature 🤔

"The Romans grew wine in England"

And ice ages too.

I don't know much about it, but it seams to me that human civilization would survive a climate change, even tho it would be a very disruptive event to all humans

freemymind 🇨🇭 9mo ago

Define survive. And may give some reasons, why humanity would survive?

Human survival is bound to following factors: Adequat supply of food, water and climate below 35°C wet-bulb temperature.

Our food sources have other living conditions, depending on the species. But many species have very specific food preferences, that they do not change. (we as human are very flexible in our food consumption)

Therefore I also think we have great abilities to adapt and build constructions to help our survival.

But with all technology, our survival depends on our food sources.

And we have more diverse and better food sources, when we live in a diverse and flourishing ecosystems, then we have in a decreasing ecosystem. When species extinct, they often cause chain reactions of other species that go extinct. And we are one variable in such a chain reaction.

I do not know how many species do have to go extinct for humanity going extinct. But I prefer not to put it to the test actually.

In the end my measure is well being. And I think we all can agree, that we as human will decrease in well being, when the food-sources decrease.

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fun.relaxed.happy.satisfied 9mo ago

Very interesting, a collapse of food chains sounds very threatening 🤔

I wonder why politicians didn't take it more serious.

There are a lot of measures taken in Europe, but what about China and India.

Isn't Europes CO2 load just a little fraction of these countries?

I ask myself, if it's such a big threat, why is the no coercion to make other countries submit to CO2 reduction?

Maybe I just didn't know about it 🤷‍♂️

The food stuff I do know better 😁

I do agree to the extent that more variety gives more joy, but very simple diets gave me the most well-being so far.

For about 15 month I have sustained myself on steak and eggs only.

Eating once a day with about one day off water only fasting per week.

I feel better then ever 🤩

I do miss the fun of Pizza and doughnuts tho 🙈

freemymind 🇨🇭 9mo ago

Where do you get your information from until now, when you do not know that it is totally threatening all form of live. It is not as if science is holding back any evidence on this. Models are already very bad. But almost every year, they have to lower the expectations of the models, since reality is worse.

I think when someone is serious, we have to accept the fact, that for climate there are no frontiers in the world. Therefore every single human being is equal in front of climate change.

And when we investigate, which world citizens pollut the world the most it is cristal clear: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

And here the list of the 40 countries, with the biggest climate actions in the last 10 years (wow Germany is one place before China): https://247wallst.com/special-report/2021/12/21/the-40-countries-decreasing-emissions-the-fastest/?tpid=1017163&tv=link&tc=in_content