Nostr Web Client

I didnt see that yet

You dont like contracts in general over nostr

Or you dont like them because you think they'll be insecure?

Main thing that a block/time chain gives you is a verifiable history so that if two people try to change something at the same time, it provides a tie breaker to see who went first.

That means that the contract cant be settled in one way, then later change its mind.

Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb) 2y ago

Again - I never dug further into contracts than reading the basics of Solidity and skimming articles about SC's in Etherium - so I am not the most informed.

I don't think that Nostr provides the neccessary source of proof for that - so in that sense, "insecure" might not be the right word, but it's close enough.

Here's a link: https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/pull/755

I get that Nostr, as a protocol, can technically be anything and everything. But... Does it need to?

Does it have to be the be-all-end-all? Or shouldn't it focus on the core features? Neither question has a definitive answer.

Personally, I associate smart contracts with Etherium, and indirectly Bitcoin. I would love it if Nostr wasn't so obsessed to be -coin bound. But neither do I call the shots nor should anyone be limited. And yet, I hope this does not see an implementation as I feel it would further pull Nostr into the "Crypto Bubble" that I think it shouldn't be in.

Or, in more rudimentary phrasing: I don't want to see Nostr destroy itself by adapting all the things it doesn't need; I don't want to see it ruined.

That said, I should go and read more on those smart contracts, then revisit the PR. Mulling it over with half-baked knowledge isn't right, nor fair to the one proposing the NIP.

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Melvin Carvalho 2y ago

I get what you're saying. Nostr has a great culture imho. I was thinking today, "nostr turns social media from a treadmill into an elevator".

What people build on it, is completely permissionless, so it's really up to whoever wants to make something, they can use it, and it might get popular.

I completely understand what you say about culture drift, as most smart contracts systems are push and scammy. It's not a culture that would be good to import. Main problem being people create tokens and try and sell them with marketing and hype.

I see them more as a way to create more robust digital systems where the history is important, and the conditions of some logic is important, as a way for different systems to work together and have a tie-breaker if two things happen at once. Could be good for games or all sorts of things.

Re coin culture. There's synergy between bitcoiners and nostr because both dreamed of a world where you were free to interact without middlemen. Eventually there will be more communities that cross polinate like the zebedee gaming comunity and areas from other networks interacting.

NIP-79 is interesting, thanks for pointing it out, I'll look into it more.