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Do you think there might be an attack in the US? There is def a syncs of plannings in diff parts of the world that's been happening for sometime lately.

Side track a little, why is the border control so bad, uncle Bob? Trump went overboard in splitting families. Obama's time this happened too but quietly (unfortunately). Biden - makes no sense, all he says is that the budget has been approved by the previous presidency so he can't do anything about it. I mean, what's the point of being the president then ? RFK talked about the inner working of the border control and how corrupt it is and that's why nobody can do anything about. You just pay "certain connections" money and you go through. And it makes me wonder if all other gov'ts just close an eye on corruption.

unclebobmartin 2y ago

From: pam at 10/11 08:26

> Do you think there might be an attack in the US?

I think that's possible. It could serve as a distraction from events in the Middle East. But I think it's more likely that the threat of an attack would be used as a way to soften our defense of Israel.

WRT the border, the issue is very complicated.

1. We need immigration to keep our demographics from collapsing. Americans do not make enough babies to support the welfare state and the industrial base. So brining young families in from abroad addresses that need.

2. Democrats believe that the immigrants will vote for them in the short term. So they encourage as much immigration as they can.

3. Republicans want the influx of cheap labor. So they also encourage as much immigration as they can.

4. Populists and Nationalists are concerned that the short term wellfare costs, and national security risks, are too great to bear, and that the effect on our culture will be disruptive.

5. Both political parties want the issue to use as a hammer against the other side. So neither are motivated to fix it.

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pam 2y ago

These are useful information, thank you. This is sad but also very true : "Both political parties want the issue to use as a hammer against the other side. So neither are motivated to fix it"

I was reading the other day about the history of nuclear energy (note1fjej6704h4gn3l2dg45s9u8q796atc89gzthz59mqn6q3ukplu7q5qhvnt) and most of the nuclear physicist who advanced the innovation in the US fled from Holocaust (mostly immigrants). While they are professionals, I'm sure there must have been some cultural adjustment. And in old sitcoms with Shirley booth as Hazel, Scottish and Italians were brought in as domestic help, cooks and so forth. But none throughout time was as intense as the border issue US faces with Mexico. I'm guessing its also a major economic disparity and high demand for a good life. And perhaps one way to really get to the root is to help Mexico build its economy.

On Israel - Palestine, I don't think there will ever be a fix. Nobody will give up the holy land, and gov'ts worldwide will milk the religious wars. But I also don't think the other party ie Russia, China, India, Saudi want a global war.

Then again I was reading a book on Sierre Leone and the RUF spread in the 90s and it was intense, cruel and recruitment spread like wildfire among children. The Northern Africa's religious movement was highly anti-US in the 70's and 80's. Its very easy to use religion as a ground to attack governments so it is worrying. After all, Persia - Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan have a few things in common - talibans and extremist.

I don't know which way this will go, but i think this is only a prelude to nastier times ahead

unclebobmartin 2y ago

We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning. We didn't start the fire, no we didn't light it but we tried to fight it.... -- Billy Joel.

From: pam at 10/11 10:29

> I don't know which way this will go, but i think this is only a prelude to nastier times ahead

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pam 2y ago

Some of the most valuable conversations here on Nostr are the ones with Uncle Bob. This one is on the border problems between US and Mexico.

"Both political parties want the issue to use as a hammer against the other side. So neither are motivated to fix it."

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