The thing about Nostr is that you can always change clients. Let a thousand flowers bloom.

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Pretty sure most casual users who want to leave twitter ot other shadowbanning platforms aren't going to be able not want to do this.

just go ahead and build the most useable android client lol. Imagine saying that to someone who is a writer, or works in music, or just a casual user looking for a censorship resistant platform. And then also say nostr needs to not become irrelevant in the same breath.

We don't have a lot of "casual" users at this point -- nor should we. We're trying to figure this whole nostr thing out, and that requires the early adopters and dedicated users and developers. So, yeah, if you don't like what one client does, pick another.

As time goes by there will be a panoply of clients out there, and the more casual users will be able to pick and choose based upon their needs, advise from their friends, and other factors.

>From: (glhf) at 05/11/23 10:15:26 on wss://relay.damus.io

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>Pretty sure most casual users who want to leave twitter ot other shadowbanning platforms aren't going to be able not want to do this.

>just go ahead and build the most useable android client lol. Imagine saying that to someone who is a writer, or works in music, or just a casual user looking for a censorship resistant platform. And then also say nostr needs to not become irrelevant in the same breath.

Yes, I am relatively new here and a non dev, and I'm a casual user. Just here out of curiousity

But I've sort of concluded now is sort of not the right time to recommend nostr to people (casual users), join nostr unless you're sure they have an iPhone lol. Cos the most usable client on android does shadowbans and the others don't really work too well (yet!). And perhaps even if they did have an iPhone, perhaps not even then maybe, you seem to be saying too?

I think as a dev nostr makes the most sense. Not so much as a casual user/goose. Speaking from personal experience lol

You don't have to use a phone to use nostr. I use my laptop. The client I use is more-speech.

>From: unclebobmartin at 05/11/23 12:02:50 on wss://relay.nostrplebs.com

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>You don't have to use a phone to use nostr. I use my laptop. The client I use is more-speech.

Test from more-speech! I just got started. I like how relays are setup out of the box :D

Unrelated, what does "TILT" string mean when you use it in code?

The initial set of relays is pretty useful. Watch that list of relays grow as time passes. Relay recommendations come in from other users, and those relays get added to the list -- but are not activated.

TILT is an old habit of mine from the 70s. It's an error message that I use when something unexpected happens.

Thanks, not heard of that. Will have a look

Apologies I actually misread what you wrote. I thought you said 'make'. Cos I've seen that response a lot. 'oh you know just make your own client'.

Switch client is v doable. However most have p annoying UX/UI problems which make them unusable. And the most usable one has shadowbans. Lol. Almost enough to make you cry lol

Yup can say i missed multiple people talking to me making me look like a dick because them not showing up