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GMPV Nostralusions,

My lovely wife and I have been comfortably abiding at or Northern Hideaway for over a week now and have begun to yearn for our more southerly home. We shall likely depart for those climes on Sunday.

Yesterday I took our new UTV on a long ride of exploration. Up north, UTVs are allowed on many of the roads and are therefore a very common summertime vehicle.

This morning I will continue my general refactoring of more-speech. Over the months I have accumulated a fair bit of technical debt; and it is time to start paying that debt down.

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nobody 2y ago

I’m presently paying 10 years of it down on a project. I’m two years in. 😵‍💫

What form does yours take Uncle Bob?

unclebobmartin 2y ago

Mostly just bad assumptions from months ago. They didn't start out bad; but over time they proved to be less than helpful.

So for example configuration data was kept in a number of different places. One of my refactorings is to unify them all into a single hashmap instead of having a bunch of little hashmaps randomly distributed around the code.

From: TheSameCat<-mazin at 06/16 08:45

> I’m presently paying 10 years of it down on a project. I’m two years in. 😵‍💫

> What form does yours take Uncle Bob?

nobody 2y ago

Do some consolidation and deduplicating. Doesn’t sound too bad. I really like your Nostr philosophy. Makes me wish I knew clojure. ❤️

unclebobmartin 2y ago

Clojure is like Go. A few minutes to learn, a lifetime to master.

From: (TheSameCat) at 06/16 08:51

> Do some consolidation and deduplicating. Doesn’t sound too bad. I really like your Nostr philosophy. Makes me wish I knew clojure. ❤️

nobody 2y ago

Same with C. 🤣

I’ve learned being productive is the best I’m gonna get. Feeling like I know what’s going on is probably beyond reach.

unclebobmartin 2y ago

The trick to mastering C is to know an assembler very well. Once you understand the metal, C becomes pretty transparent. That's not true of C++, and is definitely not true of Java, C#, Ruby, Python, JavaScript, Clojure, etc. The farther you get from the metal the more things start to look like magic.

From: TheSameCat<-mazin at 06/16 09:11

> Same with C. 🤣

> I’ve learned being productive is the best I’m gonna get. Feeling like I know what’s going on is probably beyond reach.

nobody 2y ago

What’s funny is the differences in compilers. C++ is my primary language for over 20 years now. I still feel lost 90% of the time (especially with complex templated things).

With C#, I never felt that lost, because Roslyn does such a phenomenal job, snd because C# actually has proper reflection - something C++ still doesnt have (maybe in 26 🤔).

I started on DOS using Turbo C++. I miss those days. Beautiful simplicity to single threaded applications on an OS that did very little. No going back though.

unclebobmartin 2y ago

I walked away from C++ twenty years ago just as the template craze started. It felt _wrong_ to me. The more of it I see, the _wronger_ it looks. I think the damage done to the language since then justifies my feelings.

By the same token I hate most of the generic stuff they put into Java and C#. I think simple generics are fine; but for some reason they can't stop themselves from trying to make the generics turing complete in their own right.

I also don't much care for the attributes/properties (@/[]) in Java and C#. I can see _some_ small utility for it (as in Junit) but for the most part I think it does (or at least tempts) more damage than good.

nobody 2y ago

I feel like a lot of the stuff that would've been most useful to the language has not been added, while many things that cover edge cases have not been. The exception are smart pointers and the STL, both of which I whole heartedly love.

What are your thoughts on Zig as a closer-to-metal language? I've been looking at it very closely lately.

unclebobmartin 2y ago

From: TheSameCat<-mazin at 06/16 10:00

> I feel like a lot of the stuff that would've been most useful to the language has not been added, while many things that cover edge cases have not been. The exception are smart pointers and the STL, both of which I whole heartedly love.

It was the STL that convinced me to leave the language. I thought we could have done much better. In general I think languages should not evolve much. The first few years should be a period of adjustment and evolution; but after that the language should stabilize. Unfortunately many languages evolve to the point of being top-heavy and useless.

> What are your thoughts on Zig as a closer-to-metal language? I've been looking at it very closely lately.

Never heard of it. I'll take a look.