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I feel like I'm living on another planet talking to this guy. People were having sex by 13-14 where i grew up and no one ever talked about this being "paedophilia" including when the 13yo Jewish chick had an 18yo bf at the high school. There must be some serious basement dwellers here that have zero contact with the real world and are extremely uncomfortable with sexuality. Or things really are different wherever this person lives.

Dissident Sound 3mo ago

i don't know what it is saying as i have it muted but ultimately debating NPCs always boils down to being called names

tell a liberal about black IQ or crime stats and they will slam you with " your a raycis ! "

tell a conservative about puberty onset being 9 to 14 years old and they will hit you with " your a pedo "

tell a centrist about the influence Jews have in our society or about wooden doors and " your a Nazi ! "

tell them about vaccines and " your a conspeeeraceee theorist ! "

when you try to explain something to them you, like a fool, believe that they are trying to understand your point - but they have no capacity to understand anything and have never tried - they are only listening to decide which of the half a dozen of words that they know to call you.

you think their response will be " wow i never thought about it this way but this makes sense " meanwhile they have already prepared their answer and it's in the format of "your" ( sic ) followed by *name* and they're just waiting for you to stop speaking so they can call you that name.

once they called you a name they do a little victory dance in their mind and pat themselves on the back for being so smart they know a word that you can call people and it makes them bad and wrong and it means they won.

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makeheroism 3mo ago

Imagine writing multiple paragraphs to say “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is…”

Average person who argues in favor of female pedophiles.

Prince Aleph 3mo ago

I must remember the mute button instead of engaging

makeheroism 3mo ago

Yesh you definitely don’t want your pedophilic sympathies challenged at all.

Dissident Sound 3mo ago

the purpose of engaging is to let the other person speak so you can gauge who you're dealing with ...

after that you can assess any possible benefits of the interaction such as:

1 - the person may learn something

2 - you may learn something

3 - you may score points by destroying them publicly

4 - if they are famous you may get exposure

but most likely there is ZERO benefit, and you should just mute them.

one worst case scenario ( this happened to me several times ) is when they PRETEND to be receptive to what you're saying just to get you to open up then they use everything you said against you. for example they will pretend to be receptive to the idea that age of consent is misguided then after talking for an hour suddenly they will call you a pedo and sic all their anti-pedophile friends on you.

another worst case scenario ( also happened to me several times ) is sadism by attrition so to speak - what my father would do - is to dangle the possibility that they are going to accept your point of view if you just invest more time in explaining it but secretly they don't care about the subject at all and just enjoy wasting your time out of pure sadism

another form of sadism in such debates is when they also don't care about the truth but simply want to derive pleasure by making you feel inadequate by pointing out that your arguments or evidence aren't rigorous enough. for example one shithead on Twitter was demanding that for everything i say i name the studies on which i am basing my opinion. now you have to understand that if studies revealed truth then nostr:npub1acg6thl5psv62405rljzkj8spesceyfz2c32udakc2ak0dmvfeyse9p35c would have the body and health of a teenager but of course the studies are useless ... except for one purpose - making truth seekers feel inferior to the perpetrators of scientific fraud ( like the one i was arguing with ).

so your goal when engaging is to determine as quickly as possible whether you're in a:

1 - honest debate

2 - you're using / abusing the other guy

3 - they're using / abusing you

4 - you're dealing with an NPC

in this case i believe it was number 4 ...

when dealing with an NPC you should mute them but there is no rush to do so - you can do it at any point you like when you get bored / tired. but in those other more serious cases you must detect their intent and disengage as quickly as possible.

you never want to engage a sadist on their terms. once you detect a sadist refuse to acknowledge any of their points and simply attack their character publicly. because they don't care about the subject at all - but they do care about being exposed for a sadistic sociopath.