And? Comunism is subset of socialism. So there is other types of socialism then comunism.
What socialism want is questionable.
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I agree that what socialism wants is some sort of slavery. But it’s has nothing to share with communism.
You repeting missinformation doen't make it true.
Socialism has many form and communism is just one of them.
The one mislead is clearly not me. But if you like to keep on dissing me just cause I say the truth, well have fun staying nazi-capitalist
Nazi-capitalist is what? Nazism is another form of socialism. They have it in name and also in what they did.
I agree with that!! Lol they are socialist but at the same time pushing corporatism and militarists, which is exactly what the USA capitalist socialist are today: genocide joe represents!
How can even the Russian socialist be the same as nazi since they basically lost 20M people to fight them? I seriously don’t get it. So, what could have be another outcome? Like, Russians not killing Nazis and we all live happily with respecting them??
If Russians didn’t free auschwits how could we know that they were mass killing Jews? Do you really think Americans and English didn’t actually know what was going on?? Come on…
Anglo Saxons have clearly been supporting the Nazis. Hitler was man of the year in 39 on the times. What are we talking about come on… nazists called themselves socialist, just because they are shapechangers, that’s what a fascist is. Always be on the side of the strong ones, those with money, and lie saying they are helping the people!!
Personally I dislike socialism!
So tell me this:
Nazis were socialists
But they were also anti-communists!!! 😂
So, who was also anti-communist?? Guess who…
Ahah stop being so damn nazi
By the way, they were NATIONAL SOCIALISTS
Which is what the USA are, maybe IMPERIALIST SOCIALISTS
I prefer caling USA corporate socialism. It is not nazi, but sadly yes it has too much socialism.
Corporate socialism = nazism.
That’s a simple math.
Then, I understand that living in a country thinking it supports democracy, then slowly realising that in fact it is a German state, led by Germans, who simply are the continuation of the nazi makes you live in a denial. That’s totally understandable brother. But we don’t hate you guys. Ok USA is a nazi state, but we can get along with it. Just drop all you motherfucking nazi instances. Like, Zionism and so on. Then all is good. Stop being that nazi for fvck sake!! ❤️❤️❤️🎈🎊
No. Corporationalism is not inherently nationalistic. So your math is flawed, because it's not nazism.
I don't live in USA and as anarchocapitalist I'm against state in any form 🤷♂️ So what zionism? I'm against existance of izrael and also against palestinian state, because I'm anarchist.
But the USA are not nationalists sorry, they are pretty much imperialist which is being nationalist on steroid!!
Sorry!!
My math is not flawed, my logic is coherent.
I agree with you, the state is the problem. Is just that I don’t understand this anarcho-capitalism. It feels like a scam seriously. Heyek and his bourgeois friends are not exactly what I would call people who love freedom. So how can someone used to have slaves actually produce a political framework which is not similar to his enslaving mentality?
Libertarianism is pretty much about communism and anarchy. Anarchy is socialism without the state. I don’t understand how you anarcho capitalist think about how we can take care about each other if not by creating Communities => communism .
I understand that you have this profound hate for the eternal Russian and communist enemy, but it’s clearly dystopic, as communism is libertarian so as anarchism!!
No it's not. Imperialism is not nationalism. You can have inperialistic states without any nationalism.
What ensleving mentality? Only one ensleving mentality is socialism in any form. Anarchocapitalism and similar capitalism leaning anarchisms atr only viable options for humanity freedom. Any other form of anarchism is unable to exist in large scale withou destroing individualism and practicaly enslave everyone with play on freedom.
In practice every attempt to make comunism in long run end with comunism like has been in my country or worse in russia. It is because ideal comunism can't work. It's just fairy tail.
Sorry but that’s not possible. Imperialism is the highest form of nationalism!
What you are saying is just a bunch of nazi bs
I don’t want to argument on people who pretend to know the future. I totally disagree. Capitalism is the system which lead to nazism. Wow.
Libertarians are firstly communists. Then there is people with strange capitalistic idea,which is a jungle of everyone against everyone else.
I think you should respect other libertarians instead of pumping mainstream history bs upon us.
It’s not a fairy tail, it’s an idea which was presented to the public few centuries ago. While capitalism is the direct child of bribery perpetrated during previous centuries. And your idea of capital without the state means simply the strongest survive, which is part of the nature, but we are also capable of human feelings, one of which is compassion, which means being able to share the suffering!! So I think you are free to envision a capitalistic only society based on bitcoin, but how are you going to prevent people to unite and create communities where they freely provide people who currently have no means, with the means they need to produce their labour? I think you cannot. So, the same way as you cannot prevent this, you shall let people be free to be as communists as they wish, and stop going around repeating the history lesson written by the imperialist slaves international capitalistic modern society!! You shall realise that the “socialism” that liberals are willing to accept is that type of enslavement you are talking about and it’s the just enough to make people not revolt. Capitalist governements and Nazis share the hate for communists, and why? Because communism is an ideology without classes, without a central power and without money. Pretending that the paths people tried today are the only viable to reach a communist society, is just a closed mentality.
Try to open yourself. You aswell as all the other people on here who hate communism.
Realise that communists are libertarians, that we are both on the same side and that we are not the same as the respective counterparts of the central by governments lead societies.
We are both necessary. But we shall not discuss on such a low level. Cause you are going to tell us Stalin, and we are going to tell you Hitler and Zionism. So…
Where does this ends? Shouldn’t we be more concerned about how to dismantle the states?
Your vision is:
We can only do it with rich people who invest in others, make margins and earnings on them.
Communist way is: we can reach this enabling people with the means for production, no need to earn in every asset you own, you can organise and help people be able to be independent!