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Realistically how does nostr help this (let's pretend nostr already had forum clients).

It's the legislation / fear of punishment that is the reason these small uk-based forums are closing and non-uk communities are playing it safe by blocking UK users.

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Bill Cypher 9mo ago

At some point it isn't our job. The people of the UK need to see the absurdity and fight for themselves.

Nostr in general is here for them to report abuses without risk of a takedown. It seems they are more likely to be bragging about those abuses than complaining.

A pretty UX that allows them to only talk to their hamster cuddling buddies is higher on the hierarchy of needs so to speak.

Look at it another way. Nostr allows them a place to coordinate to fight to get back their basic freedoms. Once they have their freedoms a regular http site will be a legal and reasonable way to organize a group bike ride again.

Nostr already shows that edge case fights against freedom erosion are its ideal use. Look around at how much trouble we've had attracting content that isn't about bitcoin, anarchy, agorism, privacy, and security. Find another platform as genuinely obsessed with freedom in its general vibe.

Maybe nostr doesn't need to be everything to everyone. It just needs to be big enough and powerful enough to push back hard enough that an old school forum for discussing hamster bedding being illegal would be a joke instead of a reality.

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Dikaios1517 9mo ago

I generally agree with this sentiment. However, maybe one of the ways they fight back could be by hosting their hamster forum on a protocol that can't be stopped.

7fqx 9mo ago

That's exactly what I was thinking, it's also a great showcase of the tech.

Bill Cypher 9mo ago

The government doesn't care about a hamster forum. The entire point is that they don't care enough about the unintended consequences of their constant power grabs. They don't care about the kids either. They just need a way to paint every individual as a criminal so they have an excuse to exercise their monopoly on violence.

Any censorship resistant rebuild of that hamster site will be paraded around as proof that it was really a CSAM site in disguise all along.

7fqx 9mo ago

The hamster forum (like many other forums, that one is just the one the papers could make a clickable/shareable story focusing on) isn't being shut down by the government. They are shutting themselves down as they do not want to run the risk of accidentally breaking the law which are so vague that they arent even sure what moderation decisions are to be made. And probably because it requires constant supervision. Just fyi.

Erbrook 9mo ago

It pushes all communication into approved and surveiled channels, the existing big players. A win for govt, and a win for Big tech because they get more eyeballs to feed ads.

7fqx 9mo ago

That's why I jokingly said bluesky will not only be the only option in Britain, but it will be mandatory to post all your thoughts there.

Bkuesky's moderation seems almost identical to a state's position, on anything. Lol.

Erbrook 9mo ago

BlueSky will be decentralized, on govt run servers 😂

7fqx 9mo ago

Also I'm not sure what the 'people of the UK... Fight for themselves' would even mean? What means do you have against a state keen on this? Mostly circumventing whilst avoiding incarceration and waiting it out...?

Bill Cypher 9mo ago

I think they've probably let this get too far and have no speech and voting type means of fighting back left available. Basically short the pound by converting it to bitcoin whenever possible and barter / black markets to avoid taxation where possible. Financial attacks at the core of their funding. A broke government is forced to shrink.

7fqx 9mo ago

We have a broke government already lol

Bill Cypher 9mo ago

Not true. Debt does not equal. Real scarce goods are what matters. Thanks to Fiat they can steal and run up more debt for all eternity unless the day comes that no one will accept their paper in exchange for real value any more.