Nostr Web Client

there are many reasons. It makes the code signing path asynchronous which greatly increases complexity in all of our code paths.

Not being able to mix in data into nsec in different ways prevents us from integrating our one click setup wallet.

The ux flow for signing seems pretty bad, needing to switch apps to approve things, when this could be done within the app instead.

The Beave 4mo ago 💬 1

I don't want one click anything. I'm an idiot, not a moron.

It's not hard to approve things in amber. I enjoy seeing a popup alerting me to something that's new and needs my attention and approval.

Quite frankly, I see no reason to trust anyone, even you, with my nsec, which, for the record, is more important to me than the seed phrase on my cold storage stack. Which, bee tee dubs, is harder to wrap my head around than "copy and paste one thing, hit approve, and you're good to go."

So, asking people who DO NOT TRUST to "trust me, bro" is silly at the very least.

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Aron 4mo ago

Look how much we evolve.

We have apple's "one click, dumb people" into in the android ecosystem now.

What a great time to be alive 🙌

JBN 4mo ago 💬 2

In your current setup, how many people do you have to trust (aside from Amber)? Is it not all the makers of the hardware of your phone? We can't zoom in to consider only one part of the stack as needing to be trustless. Looks to me like Will is trying to make more than one layer of the stack, and doing it himself so that it can be trustless (as possible) (for him). Fun to watch.

jb55 4mo ago

I was really just trying to solve the “need to install a browser plugin or app” barrier for normies. To do that i had to build an entirely new browser not based on the web. Might be crazy, but we’ll see.

The Beave 4mo ago

Very few. I run custom ROMs and Linux, which is about all I can do and still be connected. If that becomes too much, I'll just disconnect be annoyed for a while but get over it.

I don't fully trust will. Or hazard. Or Vitor. But I certainly don't want to trust any of them fully with my nsec. I have to trust something to start, and that is amber, but I prefer that since that's offline and not popular enough to be a target of hacking at this point. It may, in the future, and that will be something to figure out.

I can't code any of this, but I certainly have an opinion on how I want to interact with nostr clients in general. I understand more of why will is doing things the way he is, but I'm not going to use his stuff if he doesn't support nip46 signing. His objections have one good point and the rest is just being a bull-headed iOS conformoid.