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Yeah, certainly we can just use hard odds kind numbers like we have for NIP-50, I just wonder if we are not going to end up with a bunch of this and slow down adding new kind-specific NIP-51s

But now that I think about it again maybe this is early optimization.

Let’s choose a wiki-relay list kind number and I’ll add support for it on wikifreedia

Tekkadan, ゲロゲロ! 🐸 1y ago

In the context of decentralized technology there is a lot of gaps to bridge, as they are all context-specific

What we lack on Nostr is effective consensus mechanisms. When we can achieve decentralized consensus, we can achieve everything else.

The foundation of a Web of Trust is lists. Lists are the building block. On Nostr, this is NIP-51, which is why we now have sets of lists, kind 30000.

Even a few hours ago Pablo and Fiatjaf were considering wiki relay list management with yet another NIP-51 kind, and Pablo noted how NIP-51 could become bloated, assuming I interpreted their conversation correctly. I believe this trend will continue until NIP-51 lists become the foundation of the protocol. Sets of lists was an important step.

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The rest isn't easy, but it will be rewarding.

https://pgf.tech/

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hodlbod 1y ago

This is why I made NIP 32 labels, in order to classifybthings without tons of new kinds using user-provided labels. It hasn't worked out in practice so far, but I still think it's a better primitive because you can content-address individual endorsements.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

IMO you can remove tags from events and replace them with labels

i am betting that long term this will be a trajectory of change of the protocol, eliminate complexity and increase layering

david 1y ago

I don’t understand how to use NIP 32 because I don’t know how namespaces are supposed to work. I need an example.

Is there supposed to be an endpoint at ontology.coracle.social?

rugged.rug 1y ago

Lists of people whose opinions I trust, when it comes to opinions about nostr lists :)

Lists of products I believe in

Lists of arbitrators I agree to use to settle disputes

Turns into a bit of a disambiguation mess? As in, 'I have this person on a list but it doesn't mean I trust them because this is a list I use to reference opposign ideas' 'what is an opposing idea'

david 1y ago

Lists are the starting point. A proof of concept for curation of generic lists by your Grapevine with NO SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE already exists. What comes after lists? Graphs. Then more complex data models, which can be customized to the application or platform at hand.

One day, the nostr protocol will be curated by your Grapevine, at which point the nostr GitHub repo will become superfluous.