We should be able to find it, period. We should be able to isolate it (and replicate that isolation), and then use it in experiments - without other agents that are known to be toxic to animals - and reliably create infection or symptoms in other organisms.

As nostr:nprofile1qy28wue69uhnzv3h9cczuvpwxyargwpk8yhsz9nhwden5te0dp5hxapwdehhxarj9ekxzmny9uqzqqgd7ry53l56k4xjedl2gg8l5zx409vfsxmw568g8248avka8uz65aehaz noted, some humans/animals may not get ill because of the strength of their immune system, but you should at least see some pattern of infection from this isolated infectious agent.

And if not, then we should really turn our focus not to infectious agents but to the immune system.

Correct! This is almost word for word what was written in one of my books. If you can’t isolate the virus, then the cause of illness shouldn’t be the virus. It should be those factors that bill mentioned. I believe those would be considered the independent variables. In animal studies, you can manipulate those factors and see if there is a cause and effect relationship. If you can’t isolate the virus, then how would you even expose someone to it?

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Yes

The book - is it Virus Mania? I have it but haven't read it yet

No it’s goodbye germ theory

oh! haven't heard of that one. Good?

It’s pretty good but it is more opinionated and doesn’t have a references section. Right now I’m reading can you catch a cold by Daniel Roytas and it has tons of sources. This one feels more professional for sure and he tries to not take a side.