i meant for generic lightning network usage

but for zaps the integration just isn't as smooth as the integrated custodial approach like Primal. zap click

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Oh sorry I was confused since the original post was referring to good wallets for zaps. I agree there are some good self custodial wallets for regular lightning payments. Still not entirely normie friendly, but easier than running a full node at home. Breez is my favorite.

Breez I tried twice but it seemed almost to simple. lack of sense of what's going on. I guess I'm a bit too technical.

Yes sorry for the confusion, I meant to point out of would be great if these "good regular LN wallets" would be better nostrgrated for zaps.

I believe NWC should bring that, but I tried (Mutiny, Cashu) and didn't work at all, so I shrugged and went back to primal. all custodial anyway, no big difference between primal and a bunch of unknown rugpull federation risks.

zeus worked OK to receive zaps, but not for zapping. I receive zaps in fountain now, works very well, but again... custodial. no great solutions yet, gotta keep building and be patient 🥲