LOL it was an educational note, not a drag. It's how they operate, which should be publicly discussed for transparency in my opinion.
And how do you know they've been acting in good faith? We don't trust around these parts. We verify.
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"someone that's building" it's funny that if you don't have a company or product people think you don't care or know anything.
ChadF - V4V Consultant
Oh you verify? What were your thoughts after reading through nostr:nprofile1qywhwumn8ghj7emvda3xzmpdwfjkccte9e3k2umr9e68yctyv5qs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsqzpnjpc95c4rqyygvtckr0pw0v34dllg7uhn4qn02emwwsmykrls95nhhx8t 's github repo? Did you find anything you didn't like?
What do you think OP's mistake was when he originally audited the code line by line?
There was no mention of a mistake in the code in any of these posts, just explanations of how the code functions. This platform isn't for musicians who want to be DECENTRALIZED and SELF-CUSTODY their art and sats. No matter how much OP meanswell, rugpulls remain a possibility.
If you want MORE details as to MY PERSONAL issue with the code, this platform utilizes the Podcasting 2.0 RSS protocol but (unlike every other P2.0 app) does not share self-hosted RSS feeds due to its walled garden design.
I don't like it so I don't use it. Simple. Artists deserve to know THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS which was why nostr:nprofile1qqsftzm4fgwnmed4ajs0uvwj642lg5fjt7zf32pa5xvhkl7dtsu73rqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgqg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t0qy2hwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yetvd96x2uewdaexweez4ct started this thread.
There is so much to respond to here. You clearly dont know who we are nor our role and experience within the v4v music ecosystem. You rush in with an opinion not knowing the facts and project your ignorance on us. The people commenting, including myself, are producing v4v music shows, onboarding v4v artists, developing v4v music apps and/or v4v musicians. These critiques come from a place of intimate knowledge, not speculation. Unlike you, we are the boots on the ground who laid the foundation wavlake was built on. Most, if not all of us, have been active creators and participants in the v4v music ecosystem longer than you've had that npub (Dec 1, 2023).
We dont need to audit the github repository, there is no "mistake" in the code. Everything is functioning exactly as intended. Our evidence is based off the facts of reality. It is clearly transparent that our (and everyone else's) music uploaded outside of wavlake does not appear in wavlake. I state that in no uncertain terms and wavlake does not refute it. If you dont believe me, go take a look at the rss feed for any track that appears within the wavlake catalog and you will see that exactly zero are uploaded from outside of wavlake.
And I'll say it again, this is a structural design CHOICE made by wavlake. They are free to make those choices and while I dont agree with that choice, I dont fault them for chosing their own path. And in all fairness, they have never claimed otherwise.
But freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequence or critique, especially in an open ecosystem. What most of us have issue with is that this design choice (whether intentional or otherwise) results in a significant portion of the ecosystem to be excluded by the largest platform in the very space that enabled it to exist in the first place. This type of exclusion (again, intentional or otherwise) goes against what we believe to be a core ethos of the valueverse.
The bigger issue is that most artists and fans dont know this is the case and thus cannot make an informed decision unless it is in the public discord. As supporters of artists and consumers within the valueverse, its our responsibility to ensure they have the full picture so they can make their own informed decisions.
It is unreasonable to expect most musicians to audit code. They are musicians, not devs. That is why we are here putting our necks out and taking the brunt of backlash from ignorant people like yourself so that artists are better informed. We are simply calling it as we see it. Everyone (creators and consumers alike) are free to make their own informed choices after that, but that can't happen until all the cards have been revealed.
Telling a "whistleblower" to sit down does not make you the white knight you think you are.
appreciate your response
hard to express everything in text but yall misunderstand what i meant by mistake
founding stuff is hard. Voice your opinion but put some respect on the fact the Wavlake guys are trying something thats never been done
I agree with what nostr:npub19ha7tju4teqp3dmwv4p28wrcy9zd6h6hxkg5mwvjrlfycweazpkse2q0fa is saying in that it should be publicly discussed for transparency. No one is acting in malice here. Dont trust, verify.
Its clearly not transparent as the original note that prompted this response was from an artist who uploaded to wavlake and has been a firm supporter of the company from the very early days. They didn't realize, for years, that non wavlake tracks do not show up on wavlake. In all fairness, wavlake never claimed that to be the case and as far as I can tell, have not lied about that aspect.
OP isn't the only one either. In that note alone there's quite a few musicians and fans alike who didn't know either.
That in and of itself is reason for this to be in public discourse.