Yeah and holepunch needs a way for users to find each other as far as I know and is good for in the moment things.
Would be good for “off-nostr” interactions.
Like I can imagine if a client wanted to leverage something like a keet and exchange punch links via DM or group encrypted comms.
From a UX standpoint it’s just tap and go while in the background nostr and whatever holepunch act in tandem.
The possibilities actually sound really cool here.