There’s a mix of people trying to obfuscate their own self-interest - ie Lopp. That is its own problem.

And there’s disingenuous retards like Shinobi who know full well that what they’re saying is complete bullshit, it’s not just their “lens”, they are trying to twist things to suit their frame and they are lying to try to get what they want.

Shinobi isn’t the only one but he’s put himself out at the forefront of that particular talking point.

I see them as distinct from the Saylor’s who don’t want MoE and the self-interested.

1) The self-interested want to change Bitcoin to suit them to create “businesses”.

2) The disingenuous retards want to scam people with JPEGs.

3) And Saylor’s camp are spooks who want Bitcoin to be inside the State.