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one of the biggest problems i've always had with christian doctrine is the trinity and the idea of Jesus being God

interesting that this sect of christianity that rejected this doctrine is called "aryan"

to me it is obvious, to me it is very obvious that the creation story of the 7 days is gnostic metaphor, and not literal, and how much of the remainder of abrahamic religions is founded upon this

and then even the catholic twist to move the sabbath day forward and make monday the first day

very nice little presentation

i believe that to some extent many of all these old texts are historical, and many parts of them are mangled and mutilated

but reality is that which continues even when you stop believing, so there is an interesting paradox about faith, when you lose it, reality itself, ie, God, becomes visible to you

Liberty Gal 1y ago

Jesus repeatedly claimed to be God. Also, in Genesis chapter 1, God refers to Himself several times as We/Our. The trinity existed even in the first chapter of the Bible even if it wasn't explained.

The Apostle John started his gospel account with these words.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." (John 1:1-5)

He then goes on to explain the birth of Jesus. Jesus is the word. Jesus was with God and was God. Jesus created everything. That is the definition of God.

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Liberty Gal 1y ago

Jesus said in John 10:30: "I and the Father are one.”

" 23And He was saying to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. 24Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” 25So they were saying to Him, “Who are You?” Jesus said to them, “What have I been saying to you from the beginning? 26I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to the world.” 27They did not realize that He had been speaking to them about the Father. 28So Jesus said, “When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me." (John 8:23-28).

Every time, in this passage, that Jesus says "I am He," the original text says just "I am. When Moses met God at the burning bush, he asked God who should I say is sending me and God referred to Himself as "I am." In this passage, by saying "I am" twice, He is claiming to be God.

Similarly in John 8:58, "Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”"

Here Jesus is referring to His Godhead and His eternality.

Jesus does not leave us the option of calling Him anything less than God.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

"Our Father..."

not "Me"