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all nostr clients use algorithms

most just choose the algorithm of sorting messages in timestamp order

this is the most neutral algorithm, it’s attractive ideologically

it’s a stark contrast to the corporate-controlled engagement algorithms we’re accustomed to on the rest of the web. It feels like a breath of fresh air. it makes nostr feel peaceful

but it also makes it hard to find areas of activity and energy which might match my interests. what happened while I was gone? what do I not know about yet, but might I find interesting?

if an algorithm is designed to attempt to bait me into anger/rage for the purposes of serving me an ad, then this is an algorithm I would like the power to opt out of. It’s designed to serve me an ad, not to inform me

I want to choose algorithms that serve my interest to learn from people I trust (e.g. show me the notes from people I don’t follow, but who are most zapped by people I have zapped; surface notes that are replies to notes I may have seen and zapped but which are gaining a lot of zaps/replies themselves)

we can create algorithms that serve the needs of users and not the needs of corporations. They can be transparent (how do they work?) and pluggable (add/remove which algorithms you see fit). This is a different approach with different incentives from any existing algorithms in social media. “Show me the incentives I’ll show you the outcome.” We’ve never seen the outcome with this set of incentives.

I want a nostr that’s more alive and points me towards hubs of energy/activity, but is structured in service of me

could this be solved by an rss-ish subcription model that sorts/filters based on your input. all while making sure you are using unfettered relays. im new here and spouting idealism. let me know where i went silly.

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RSS is very timestamp oriented, so yes we have lots of Nostr clients that are timestamp oriented like RSS.

“sorts/filters based on your input” is a very underexplored design space (and very interesting to me).

do you have more specific ideas on how this might work?

well, as im as new as this protocol, im looking at the possibilities. i think that a relay that is completely open allows for a client that can at least sort/filter by nip/kind (and if i have my way, geohash). i think that key here is that a client with a simple enough interface could sort by more than the conventions offered within the protocol, but by content, author, and other metadata. i dont see why this couldnt/wouldnt be implemented in damus or primal, but again im new here and still havent fully assessed the landscape.

more than crossing fingers, talk to some people developing clients/relays to get their feedback or who might point you to any prior art to consider

“…but I was gonna head to Toshi station to pick up some power converters!”

:)

seriously, you know anyone specific to damus or primal i can hit? otherwise im just gonna hit their support channels.