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The example doesn't matter. Rape, murder, theft, taxation. You pick whichever evil you want. You said that god wills everything which means that he wills these evil acts taken by humans.

Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago 💬 2

Pretty sure I said anything coming into the world must be from divine inspiration... Well, something like that.

The pattern is obvious - good things enter the world first, then the concept gets corrupted. But always good first. Look at Bitcoin - the good thing came into the world, and then came the shitcoining. Same story with everything. Find me an exception, I cant think of one.

The bad is from humans. To ask why God allows bad things is to ask both what God is and what the purpose of existence is. Ambitious enough?

If you don't think you have free will, then just test it. Do something neither you nor God would approve of. Actually please don't, but you can if you seriously think free will isn't real.

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MAHDOOD 1mo ago

You said how could anything come to be without gods will. That means god wills everything to be including evil. You can admit that this statement is wrong and offer a different view but that is what you said and I'm not going to move on from it aha

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Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago 💬 2

Okay but you were asking how God could have created evil. I'm still waiting for an example of evil that is God's doing and not humans.

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

God created satan and adam. He knows their nature. He set up temptation for adam knowing that he would succumb and eat the fruit. Intentionally setting someone up for failure is evil. It's equivalent to giving car keys to a child and then saying it's not my fault that they got hurt trying to drive. It was their free will and lack of reasoning. That's neglect and child endangerment.

Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago 💬 2

What does failure mean? What are the preconditions, and the mechanics, broadly speaking?

MAHDOOD 1mo ago

Failing to abide by the rule to not eat from the tree

Comte de Sats Germain 1mo ago

That has a nonliteral meaning. Its as misunderstood as Revelations.

Broadly speaking. What's a goal you might fail or succeed at? What do you need to be able to succeed? What do you get by succeeding? Is success a thing if failure isn't possible?