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I think you're missing my point.

Keto is not a way to offset calorie intake. It's a way to eat less total calories.

Exercise _is_ a way to actually offset calorie intake. The reason why it doesn't work in most people is most people don't actually work hard enough at their exercise to burn more than a trivial amount of calories.

In my personal experience, and the experiences of everyone else I've ever met, once you actually get a significant amount of exercise you will lose weight. Eg for me, that was quite easy by cycle commuting. Its just hard to integrate that into most lifestyles.

Sjors Provoost 1y ago

I once calculated the distance I had to walk (at a fast pace, with or without elevation change) to offset a single Frappuccino. It was a depressing but certainly doable number. Some fitness apps give you a vanity number of calories spent that don't subtract baseline metabolism though.

Agree with the observation that keto mostly helps increase satiation and therefore calorie intake. The one time I did that it was very effective, but not fun.

Exercise may, in addition to obviously burning calories, have some influence on (the type of) appetite too. I haven't read up on any studies.

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Peter Todd 1y ago

A tall frappuccino is about 160 calories. That's about equal to the extra calories burned for. 200lb man walking at a brisk pace 2.5km, which will take about 25 minutes.

If your walk to and from the Starbucks, that's just 12.5 minutes each way. Pick a Starbucks that isn't close to you. No big deal.

If you ran at a moderate pace, the same man could equal the calories burned in just 10 minutes round trip, 1.6km.

Peter Todd 1y ago

Since most people only exceed their calorie needs by a bit, putting on weight slowly over time, reversing that doesn't actually take that much more exercise.

The problem is that people think a "brisk walk" for half an hour three times a week counts as significant exercise.

I really have to wonder what % of Americans have even reached 90% of maximum heart rate in the past year...

Sjors Provoost 1y ago

Double that... Java chip and whipped cream is my style :-)

Back in the day I would usually walk 20 minutes there and back with a detour (up to an hour if I had the time and a good podcast).

Peter Todd 1y ago

Yeah, well, cut out the chocolate and cream and it'll be easier to lose that weight...

Which I think we all agree is so much of what keto really is: a restrictive diet that naturally leads to weight lose purely out of inconvenience.

Sjors Provoost 1y ago

Blasphemy! (can also just cut the frequency of consuming them in half)