Sometimes bitcoiners make me laugh.

Them: we want to pay in bitcoin, build a bitcoin payment system.

Me: builds full BTCPAY server with super connected LN node, starts accepting bitcoin.

Them: we don't want to spend our bitcoin

If you want people to integrate bitcoin into their businesses, stop moaning about spending your bitcoin with those businesses.

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Yeah. From experience. Cryptobros only spend crypto when it's high and fiat when it's low. Which sucks because its passing unrealized losses onto the business. Unless of course, you as a business use a service that automatically converts crypto transactions into fiat. Completely defeating the purpose.