they love to call us salty and stubborn and this kind of thing right?

did i just migrate to being a grumpy grandpa or are these kids just a bunch of mushy brained kids that have had their minds soiled by retarded corporate mumbojumbo?

let me think

yes, definitely i don't remember mumbojumbo being a good thing in programming, so they have definitely got mushy brains and need to harden up

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Sometimes I have to be part of hiring and I call it a failure of education system.

They want money, priviledges, time and no responsibility.

They offer pure nothing in return.

There are rare exceptions. Usually math (or physics) graduates who openly admits that they know shit about programming (langs), but they can easily solve the challenges in a pseudo language. I like those guys so much more.

engineers... actual engineers... people who have a grasp of the problem solving process

yes, it is rare, and some you can coax it out of them...

the fiat software industry is incredibly ... disconnected from the real world, isn't it?

You can do wordpress, you're frontend engineer.

You can "gradle build" you're backend programmer.

You know what ssh is, you're sysadmin