Something Ive always wanted to add to damus, but maybe it won’t matter as much since in outbox your peers decide which relays you talk to anyways.
Discussion
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So much of nostr client performance hinges on good relays and we’re assigning them at random?
Seems like that might not end well. Or am I missing something? Can the outbox model be improved?
Some of us are concerned about it others don’t see any problems 🤷♂️
I know nostr:npub1uac67zc9er54ln0kl6e4qp2y6ta3enfcg7ywnayshvlw9r5w6ehsqq99rx has been working on publishing relay data in nostr events but it’s a challenge that needs multiple data providers.
Reliability is more important than performance but it still needs to answer REQs in a timely fashion.
NIP-66 events are are being published full-scale from 8 monitors on 6 continents as of about . 8 pushing 30066 events with round-trip times and 1 publishing full metadata and 30166 discoverability events.
oof, as of about 3 weeks ago*
What is this website?
No it's not, it's https://github.com/sandwichfarm/myrelay.page
ohh, super awesome
thank you for sharing 💜
There's a live stream of data here: https://nostrpul.se
Yes at one point nostr was unusable until strfry came along. If you get randomly put into a pool of unreliable relays then primal users will effectively rely on the primal caching relay for everything. Afaik all primal users have to use their relay anyways since it is used for pulling stats and stuff. I’m not sure if outbox even makes sense in clients that are centralized like this? It seems like a decentralized-in-name-only kind of setup.
Let us give our monthly thanks to nostr:npub1yxprsscnjw2e6myxz73mmzvnqw5kvzd5ffjya9ecjypc5l0gvgksh8qud4 - whatever he may be up to!
A true legend 🫡
actually damus would probably have been on the outbox model by now if it weren’t for strfry, it carried the relay pool model so far 😅
Its great for reliable user experience … but no so much for decentralization. distributing query load across smaller relays would have been the only other way to do it, but it still would have been slow.