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I will gladly civilly debate anyone on the OP_RETURN saga over audio. I believe I have found the ulterior motive for why these spammers want to force their limitless OP_RETURN policy settings on as many nodes as possible and can clearly articulate why this BIP should be closed for good and never be opened again.

Right now for a spammer to get a tx with over 80 bytes in the OP_RETURN they would have to go out of band to miner that will include their transactions in the next block they find. The miners that offer this service to spammers only find a small percentage of blocks which means these spam transactions can only occur every so often. If all bitcoin core node runners were to remove the OP_RETURN limits then all miners would see these spam transactions and include them in their block template making the spam occur regularly.

These guys can fork core and make this change but that doesn’t help because they NEED as many nodes as possible to propagate their txs so they have a higher chance of it being included in the next block.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 8mo ago

i believe there's still plenty of nodes running old versions and i don't see them upgrading on the whim of influencoors on X

but it's worth talking about because they are playing at getting their spam on as many nodes as possible

i certainly am not upgrading core now because of this, and i'm probably already running the second newest version, i think i also set some settings to reject a lot of data transactions, after lukedashjr posted instructions

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:P 8mo ago

Yes this is a numbers game they need to get as many nodes as can they can to remove the limit so they ultimately throttle the throughput of the network and inject maximum spam.

sedited 8mo ago

This change is not likely to increase that behaviour. It is meant to shift behaviour.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 8mo ago

psychological warfare

:P 8mo ago

Yeah because spammers are going to pay MORE to stuff their spam in the OP_RETURN You must really be a charlatan to think spammers will pay more because they care are about the network.

sedited 8mo ago

I don't think they will either if the choice is there. Some want/have to embed their data in non-discounted outputs. I'd rather have them put it into a OP_RETURN than in some fake key output.

:P 8mo ago

Sorry I shouldn’t check Nostr when I wake up before I drink my coffee, I clearly misread your comment!