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Biblical Marriage 2y ago

What does Christ mean when he says, "Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery"?

How is "putting away" related to "dealing treacherously"?

Do either of these end a marriage with "the wife of thy covenant"?

Does anything else end such a marriage?

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Malachi 2:14: "Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the LORD hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant."

Luke 16:18: "Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."

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Technomancer 2y ago

If you cheat or lose trust its over

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

Why do traditional wedding vows include "for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part"?

If there's exceptions, shouldn't they be mentioned aside from "till death"?

Technomancer 2y ago

I think it should not have to be included. Its an unspoken rule. There was a time where if you cheated, you were killed.

Divorce was originated to save the x spouses life.

Bowtied Peasant 2y ago

'Putting away' is mostly translated as divorce. My understanding of this is that, in OT times men could divorce their wives with relative impunity, for various reasons. But Jesus said that it should not be so. Matthew 19:9 & 5:32 suggests that divorcing an adulterous wife is acceptable; but other than this, it seems that Jesus is saying that marriage should be taken more seriously - and that attempting to divorce for other reasons is breaking a solemn vow (acting treacherously).

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

Suppose a man has dealt treacherously by divorcing his wife and marrying another, thus committing adultery.

Why is it adultery for another man to marry the wife he put away?

Luke 16:18: "Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery."

Bowtied Peasant 2y ago

Because in God's eyes the original marriage still stands and hence the wife is not free to marry another?

516add19... 2y ago

I think these scriptures are referring to neglecting our wives who we have covenanted with. I think it’s unfortunately common for a lot of men to have unrealistic expectations and when they are not 100% satisfied they divorce and marry another woman. This is the adultery spoken of. This can definitely end a beautiful marriage. We are to love our wives as Christ loved the church. We are to give our all to them. We are to be one with our wives.

I also believe pride, selfishness and lustful desires can lead to an ended marriage.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

1 Corinthians 11:11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

"they divorce and marry another woman. This is the adultery spoken of. This can definitely end a beautiful marriage."

Which part ends a marriage? Why is marrying another after divorce adultery?

"pride, selfishness and lustful desires can lead to an ended marriage."

These fall under hardness of heart. How do they end a marriage practically?

516add19... 2y ago

I meant not that it is adultery to divorce and marry another woman but that neglecting our wives to the point of divorce may be compared to adultery in a way. Like how lusting after another woman is committing adultery in our hearts.

Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

As for hardness of heart. We need to have a broken heart and a contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

Christ isn't taking about literal adultery here, but rather talking about a heart issue? Kind of like comparing angry without cause to murder?

Matthew 5:21-22: "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

Why then is the wife bound as long as her husband lives? Why would she be called an adulterer of she marries another?

1 Corinthians 7:39: "The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord."

Romans 7:2-3: "For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man."

Anthony 2y ago

In Luke 16:18, Christ is referring to the act of divorce and remarriage. He is saying that whoever divorces their wife and marries another woman is committing adultery. This means that the person is breaking their marriage covenant and engaging in sexual relations with someone who is not their lawful spouse.

"Putting away" is an old-fashioned term for divorce, and it is related to "dealing treacherously" in Malachi 2:14 because divorce was seen as a breach of the marriage covenant, which was considered a sacred agreement between two people and God. When a person divorces their spouse, they are breaking the covenant and acting treacherously towards their partner.

In Malachi 2:14, the prophet is rebuking the Israelites for divorcing their wives and treating them treacherously. He is reminding them that the marriage covenant is sacred and that they are accountable to God for their actions. He is also pointing out that even though they may have divorced their wives, they are still bound by the covenant they made with them, and they are still responsible for treating them with love and respect.

Both divorce and adultery are serious offenses that can end a marriage with "the wife of thy covenant." However, in some cases, a marriage may be annulled, which means it is considered null and void from the beginning. This may happen if there was fraud, duress, or a legal impediment to the marriage.

In addition to divorce and annulment, death can also end a marriage. When one of the spouses dies, the marriage covenant is considered dissolved, and the surviving spouse is free to remarry if they choose.

(>0_0)> 2y ago

Jesus is pretty clear in Mark 10 that divorce and remarriage is not what God intended.

1 He left that place and went to the region of Judea and beyond the Jordan. And crowds again gathered around him; and, as was his custom, he again taught them. 2 Some Pharisees came, and to test him they asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" 3 He answered them, "What did Moses command you?" 4 They said, "Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her." 5 But Jesus said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart he wrote this commandment for you. 6 But from the beginning of creation, "God made them male and female.' 7 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate." 10 Then in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11 He said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her; 12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

Matthew 19:4-9 offers a similar response but adds an exception for “porneia” which is often translated as adultery even though “moicheia” would have been the better word choice. In reality “porneia” probably refers to something the audience finds sexually inappropriate like a marriage relationship between close family members.

In Mark 12:25 it seems that the intention is for marriage to only be ended by the death of a spouse.

“When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.”

(>0_0)> 2y ago

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Anthony 2y ago

The phrase "putting away" is a biblical term used to describe divorce or the act of ending a marriage. In the Old Testament, divorce was permitted under certain circumstances, but it was not something that God desired or approved of. Jesus is emphasizing that divorce and remarriage are not to be taken lightly and should only be considered in the most extreme situations.

The phrase "dealing treacherously" in Malachi 2:14 refers to a person who is unfaithful to their spouse and breaks their marriage covenant. This is similar to the concept of adultery that Jesus mentions in Luke 16:18. Both verses are warning against the serious sin of infidelity and the breaking of the marriage covenant.

In Malachi 2:14, God reminds the Israelites that he has been a witness to their marriage covenant and that they have committed a sin against him by dealing treacherously with their spouses. Despite this, the wife is still considered a companion and the wife of their covenant.

In biblical teaching, there are limited reasons for ending a marriage. Adultery is one of the reasons that is considered legitimate for ending a marriage. However, even in such a case, it is not required that the marriage ends, and forgiveness and reconciliation are encouraged whenever possible. Apart from adultery, other reasons that could potentially end a marriage include abandonment, physical abuse, and unrepentant ongoing sin.

In summary, both Malachi 2:14 and Luke 16:18 emphasize the seriousness of divorce, infidelity, and the breaking of the marriage covenant. While divorce may be permitted under certain circumstances, it is not something to be taken lightly or pursued without careful consideration and prayerful guidance.

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

"In the Old Testament, divorce was permitted under certain circumstances, but it was not something that God desired or approved of. Jesus is emphasizing that divorce and remarriage are not to be taken lightly and should only be considered in the most extreme situations."

Was divorce permitted or merely tolerated?

Was polygyny permitted or merely tolerated?

Are either permitted or tolerated today?

When (and where in the Bible) does Jesus say we should consider remarriage?

'The phrase "dealing treacherously" in Malachi 2:14 refers to a person who is unfaithful to their spouse and breaks their marriage covenant. This is similar to the concept of adultery that Jesus mentions in Luke 16:18. Both verses are warning against the serious sin of infidelity and the breaking of the marriage covenant.'

Is infidelity something that in itself ends a marriage? Is adultery?

'In Malachi 2:14, God reminds the Israelites that he has been a witness to their marriage covenant and that they have committed a sin against him by dealing treacherously with their spouses. Despite this, the wife is still considered a companion and the wife of their covenant.'

Makes sense. Even though the wife has been dealt with treacherously by her husband, she's still the due all the entitlements as his wife?

Sounds a bit like Israel being metaphorically married to God despite idolatry:

Jeremiah 3:1,13-14: "They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD. ... Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD. Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:"

"In biblical teaching, there are limited reasons for ending a marriage. Adultery is one of the reasons that is considered legitimate for ending a marriage. However, even in such a case, it is not required that the marriage ends, and forgiveness and reconciliation are encouraged whenever possible. Apart from adultery, other reasons that could potentially end a marriage include abandonment, physical abuse, and unrepentant ongoing sin."

Where does the Bible discuss these reasons for ending a marriage?

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Orange Crush 2y ago

Put away = Abandoned (divorced). At the time, women would not own property or participate in the economy. So putting her away means abandonment. Perhaps she was infertile (reference to age—“wife of your youth”).

Seem pretty basic: don’t leave your wife for another woman—that is bad; that is adultery. Perhaps the biblical scholars at the time interpreted differently to provide support to the actions of the ruling elite.

Geo Proxus 2y ago

“Putting away” without a certificate of divorce is wrong. The woman who has been “put away” needs a certificate of divorce in order to marry someone else without committing adultery.

Biblical Marriage 2y ago

That doesn't check out. Would the Disciples really have found it so onerous to provide a certificate that they'd find it not good to marry at all?

Matthew 19:10: "His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry."